932: Depression, Mormonism, and Faith Transitions Pt. 3
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 28 May 2018
⏱️ 56 minutes
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Summary
In light of a statement on LDS.org declaring, “An inability to feel the spirit … is often a symptom of poor mental health,” Natasha Helfer Parker, MFT CST and John Dehlin, Ph.D. are joined by our guest Matt to speak about his experiences with Mormon faith crises, depression, and suicidality—issues he has dealt with for 20 years.
According to Matt, it makes him angry to read that his struggles were a trial, test, or blessing from God, or that he could have been healed if he had more faith, prayed, or hadn’t “sinned.” Matt believes that religious observance is not a cure for mental health illness, and in these episodes, Natasha and John discuss how Mormonism, and in particular a faith transition in the context of Mormonism, can exacerbate the symptoms of depression.
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Part 1: Natasha and John discuss depression and then introduce our guest, Matt
Part 2: Matt shares his faith transition and how it affected his mental health
Part 3: Natasha, John, and Matt discuss the LDS Church’s statement regarding mental health and the ability to feel the “Spirit”
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| 1:00.0 | All right so Matt, going back to your story, you took us to the point of kind of being suicidal. |
| 1:20.4 | Tell us how you've journeyed from there. Yeah and it kind of, I was starting to cross into the |
| 1:32.3 | unhealthy part where I was writing suicide notes and you know searching out methods you know online. |
| 1:43.3 | And Google, like if you kind of do some of that, like Google actually pop up numbers that say, |
| 1:48.8 | do you need help and they'll give you you know numbers to contact to like a suicide hotline. |
| 1:55.1 | If you know in the moment so you can see it right there. So yeah I just, I was in a dark place and |
| 2:05.9 | went back to my psychiatrist and just at some levels and had some medications and |
| 2:12.0 | that was a couple months ago and things have gotten better. We've gotten to the point where kind of |
| 2:21.3 | like suicide ideation is now only you know a handful of times a day instead of kind of the like |
| 2:30.3 | all consuming like it was before. My anxiety hasn't quite gone down as much and so we're still kind |
| 2:39.6 | of trying to tweak, tweak things for that. But I'm now more I guess cautiously optimistic |
| 2:49.8 | whereas before I thought and thought it was a near certainty that I would die by suicide. I'm now |
| 2:56.4 | a little bit optimistic that I can kind of get through this. That's kind of where we are now. |
| 3:03.5 | Yeah. Okay well Matt I want to thank you for being so vulnerable because you're sharing really |
| 3:12.2 | intimate stuff, really personal stuff and that's not easy. So I want to thank you for being |
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