The Inconquerable Podcast, number 93, June 2012.

Welcome back, everybody, to The Incomparable Podcast.

I'm your host, Jason Snell.

This is another edition of our book club, and I have two participants, two brave, brave participants who are going to

join me to discuss two novels by science fiction writer Paolo Basi Galupi. I said it. Listen to me. Look,

I said his name. Now, I learned how to pronounce Paulo Basi Galupi's name because he wrote a book

called The Wind Up Girl, which was actually one shared the Hugo Award a couple of years back for best novel.

And I loved it and I voted for it.

And it was excellent.

And he also wrote around the same time a young adult novel called Shipbreaker, which won a whole lot of awards.

It was a finalist for the National Book Award. It won the Prince Award and the Locus Award, which is a sci-fi award for Best Young Adult Book.

It is a very, very good book and has spawned a follow-up called The Drown Cities, which was released, I believe, last month, very recently. So it's a new release. So these are books in the same universe. They are not directly connected except for one character, which we'll get to. But I think Shipbreaker is fantastic, and we have talked about it briefly on a couple of podcasts before.

Scott McNulty, who joins me here.

It was the first person to mention this book to me, and he got me to read it, and he said great things about it.

Scott, thanks for being here to talk about it a little bit more.

I say his last name as Baca Galoupe.

Baca Galupe.

I have no idea if it's right or not.

Bacagalip? Bacagalupi? Bacchagalupi? Bacchigalupi.

Bacchigalupi? Bacigalupi.

B-A-G-A-L-U-P-I. He's, his extraction, I believe, may be Italian, but he is, he lives in

Colorado. He's an American who lives in Colorado. And that other voice you heard was

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