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People I (Mostly) Admire

93. Annie Duke Thinks You Should Quit

People I (Mostly) Admire

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4.61.9K Ratings

🗓️ 26 November 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Former professional poker player Annie Duke has a new book on Steve’s favorite subject: quitting. They talk about why quitting is so hard, how to do it sooner, and why we feel shame when we do something that’s good for us.

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My guest today, Annie Duke, is a psychologist, turned poker player, turned best selling

0:09.3

author.

0:10.3

Her focus in all of these endeavors, how to make better decisions.

0:13.8

I felt this realization that I never had stopped doing cognitive science because the

0:19.8

thing that I was obsessed with in graduate school, which was learning under conditions

0:24.0

of uncertainty and uncertain systems, was really what I was doing in poker.

0:31.9

Welcome to People I Mostly Admire, with Steve Levitt.

0:37.6

In her latest book entitled Quit, the Power of Knowing When To Walk Away, Annie tackles

0:42.1

one of my favorite subjects, quitting.

0:45.4

All sorts of systematic biases have been laid bare by the field of behavioral economics,

0:49.9

but in my opinion, not quitting soon enough, is the most costly mistake people are making

0:55.3

in their everyday lives.

0:56.7

But I haven't had much success in convincing people that's the case, hopefully Annie Duke

1:00.8

is more persuasive than I am.

1:08.3

So Annie, a couple of times on this podcast, I've offered my guests one of the highest

1:13.8

compliments I can give.

1:15.4

I've called them a quitter.

1:18.4

How would you feel if I called you a quitter?

1:22.6

Well knowing you, I would feel complemented.

1:26.4

Because you just written a new book and it's called Quit, the Power of Knowing When To Walk

1:30.4

Away.

1:31.4

And I hope a lot of people can read that book and they're going to come to realize that

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