928: Shawn McCraney - Breaking the Bondage of Religion Pt. 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 24 May 2018
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
Continuing our theme of interviewing past guests from some of our most popular and impactful interviews, we interview Shawn McCraney who first appeared on Mormon Stories in February 2010to discuss his experience as a "Born-Again Mormon." Shawn currently leads a church in Murray, Utah called C.A.M.P.U.S and has continued the ministry through a weekly streaming service, called Heart of the Matter. Shawn is widely known for his bold and sometimes bare-knuckled approach when comparing Mormonism to Christianity, and given his reputation as an animated and articulate speaker, this interview will keep you entertained and perhaps inspired.
In this interview we cover:
- Part 1: Shawn provides a brief recap of his born-again experience, and then discusses the meteoric rise, and ultimately descent of his tv program Heart of the Matterafter he confronted local Utah Christian churches for focusing more on programs and tithes, and less on the Bible. According to Shawn, these churches were providing the same "bondage" to people as the Mormon Church was.
- Part 2: This segment of the interview is a conversation focusing on Shawn's theology and beliefs, and Shawn provides a pitch for why a questioning Mormon or post-Mormon should seek the Jesus of the Bible
- Part 3: Shawn describes the "bondage" he sees when local churches focus more on "religion" and less on the teachings of Jesus. After our interview with the South Mountain Community Church earlier this year, Shawn voiced concerns to Mormon Stories about our visit and in this segment, we engage in a respectful dialogue about churches such as SMCC and how they serve their congregants.
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| 1:14.9 | Hello everyone and welcome back to part two of my Mormon Stories podcast interview with Sean McRainey. |
| 1:21.0 | I'm John DeLin. It's really exciting to have you with us today. It's May 15th, 2018. We just spent |
| 1:27.9 | the first hour with Sean talking about his original interview with us on Mormon Stories podcast |
| 1:34.2 | eight or so years ago. We talked about quickly his life story of how he became born again Mormon, |
| 1:40.9 | how he started his ministries here in Utah, how that rose and rose and rose to the point of making |
| 1:46.4 | half a million years. That's pretty sweet. Nice coin. The ministry. Yeah, the ministry made up to |
| 1:52.9 | half a million dollars a year. He had this really successful TV program for eight years and then |
| 2:00.3 | finally how that all came tumbling down when he started to challenge the local Utah evangelical |
| 2:09.3 | and other Christian churches and then how he recreated a ministry again with the Lathea and campus |
| 2:18.7 | church. He built an online streaming ministry and I actually built a physical church which is |
| 2:26.7 | where we're meeting right now called campus church. So that was our first episode. If you haven't |
| 2:32.0 | checked that out, please go back and listen to it. It was good stuff. Sean's an engaging and an |
| 2:36.9 | interesting and a sincere speaker. We talked about then why he didn't start a mega church and I'm |
| 2:42.4 | going to push back on that. But now we're going to go into a few things. We're going to talk about |
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