926 NPR's Steve Inskeep on his new book "Differ We Must: How Lincoln Succeeded in a Divided America"
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Steve Inskeep is a host of NPR's Morning Edition, as well as NPR's morning news podcast Up First.
Known for interviews with presidents and Congressional leaders, Inskeep has a passion for stories of the less famous: Pennsylvania truck drivers, Kentucky coal miners, U.S.-Mexico border detainees, Yemeni refugees, California firefighters, American soldiers.
Since joining Morning Edition in 2004, Inskeep has hosted the program from New Orleans, Detroit, San Francisco, Cairo, and Beijing; investigated Iraqi police in Baghdad; and received a Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award for "The Price of African Oil," on conflict in Nigeria. He has taken listeners on a 2,428-mile journey along the U.S.-Mexico border, and 2,700 miles across North Africa. He is a repeat visitor to Iran and has covered wars in Syria and Yemen.
Inskeep says Morning Edition works to "slow down the news," making sense of fast-moving events. A prime example came during the 2008 Presidential campaign, when Inskeep and NPR's Michele Norris conducted "The York Project," groundbreaking conversations about race, which received an Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Silver Baton for excellence.
Inskeep was hired by NPR in 1996. His first full-time assignment was the 1996 presidential primary in New Hampshire. He went on to cover the Pentagon, the Senate, and the 2000 presidential campaign of George W. Bush. After the Sept. 11 attacks, he covered the war in Afghanistan, turmoil in Pakistan, and the war in Iraq. In 2003, he received a National Headliner Award for investigating a military raid gone wrong in Afghanistan. He has twice been part of NPR News teams awarded the Alfred I. duPont-Columbia University Silver Baton for coverage of Iraq.
On days of bad news, Inskeep is inspired by the Langston Hughes book, Laughing to Keep From Crying. Of hosting Morning Edition during the 2008 financial crisis and Great Recession, he told Nuvo magazine when "the whole world seemed to be falling apart, it was especially important for me ... to be amused, even if I had to be cynically amused, about the things that were going wrong. Laughter is a sign that you're not defeated."
Inskeep is the author of Instant City: Life and Death in Karachi, a 2011 book on one of the world's great megacities. He is also author of Jacksonland, a history of President Andrew Jackson's long-running conflict with John Ross, a Cherokee chief who resisted the removal of Indians from the eastern United States in the 1830s.
He has been a guest on numerous TV programs including ABC's This Week, NBC's Meet the Press, MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports, CNN's Inside Politics and the PBS Newshour. He has written for publications including The New York Times, Washington Post, the Wall Street Journal, and The Atlantic.
A native of Carmel, Indiana, Inskeep is a graduate of Morehead State University in Kentucky.
A compelling and nuanced exploration of Abraham Lincoln’s political acumen, illuminating a great politician’s strategy in a country divided—and lessons for our own disorderly present
In 1855, with the United States at odds over slavery, the lawyerAbraham Lincoln wrote a note to his best friend, the son of a Kentucky slaveowner. Lincoln rebuked his friend for failing to oppose slavery. But he added: “If for this you and I must differ, differ we must,” and said they would be friends forever. Throughout his life and political career, Lincoln often agreed to disagree. Democracy demanded it, since even an adversary had a vote. The man who went on to become America’s sixteenth president has assumed many roles in our historical consciousness, but most notable is that he was, unapologetically, a politician. And as Steve Inskeep argues, it was because he was willing to engage in politics—meeting with critics, sometimes working with them and other times outwitting them—that he was able to lead a social revolution.
In Differ We Must, Inskeep illuminates Lincoln’s life through sixteen encounters, some well-known, some obscure, but all imbued with new significance here. Each interaction was with a person who differed from Lincoln, and in each someone wanted something from the other. While Lincoln didn’t always change his critics’ beliefs—many went to war against him—he did learn how to make his beliefs actionable. He told jokes, relied on sarcasm, and often made fun of himself—but behind the banter was a distinguished storyteller who carefully chose what to say and what to withhold. He knew his limitations and, as history came to prove, he knew how to prioritize. Many of his greatest acts came about through his engagement with people who disagreed with him—meaning that in these meetings, Lincoln became the Lincoln we know.
As the host of NPR’s Morning Edition for almost two decades, Inskeep has mastered the art of bridging divides and building constructive debate in interviews; in Differ We Must, he brings his skills to bear on a prior master, forming a fresh and compelling narrative of Lincoln’s life. With rich detail and enlightening commentary, Inskeep expands our understanding of a politician who held strong to his moral compass while navigating between corrosive political factions, one who began his career in the minority party and not only won the majority but succeeded in uniting a nation.
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| 0:00.0 | Well, hello there, my friends. Welcome to today's episode of Stand Up, where my guest is |
| 0:07.7 | a very special host of NPR's morning edition for almost two decades. One of the most |
| 0:13.9 | recognizable voices in all of America and the author of a new book, Differ We Must. |
| 0:20.2 | How Lincoln succeeded in a divided America. Steve Inskeep is right here on Stand Up, |
| 0:26.9 | coming up at about 11 minutes, just past 11 minutes, and I start my conversation with Steve. |
| 0:32.5 | I thought I would be reading a history book, but it's as much of a self-help and enlightening |
| 0:39.4 | on how to have healthy conversations, debates, and negotiations to get what you want in |
| 0:45.1 | the long run. Real good book. Love talking to Steve. I think you'll really enjoy that. |
| 0:50.4 | But first, it's time for a bit of a news recap from Over the Weekend, and even before |
| 0:55.1 | that, just want to say thanks to everybody who was hanging out with me on Friday Night, |
| 0:58.6 | the Rare Stand Up, Pete Dominic, Friday Night Hangout, and it was great. I think we were |
| 1:02.8 | there for about two hours, really enlightening, deep conversation about whether or not people |
| 1:08.0 | are born or can be evil. It was like a 45-minute conversation with several folks weighing in. |
| 1:13.9 | I very much appreciated the thoughtfulness and tenor of that talk on Friday Night. |
| 1:19.6 | If you are a Stand Up subscriber, I'm including a private link to my YouTube channel that |
| 1:25.4 | you can watch and listen to that Hangout. Today's email to subscribers to the YouTube page |
| 1:31.9 | that is private, only for subscribers. If you want to go watch the Hangout from Friday |
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| 1:38.0 | Oh, and while you're there, subscribe. YouTube.com slash Stand Up, Pete, I've had almost |
| 1:42.2 | 2,000 subscribers there, so it'd be great to pass that threshold. Also, I hope that you |
| 1:47.2 | watched me on MSNBC on Friday Night. It was the 11th hour on Friday Night. A lot of |
| 1:53.9 | people did watch. Got great feedback from a whole bunch of listeners. I really appreciated |
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