92. Is Perfectionism a Dirty Word? with Katherine Morgan Schafler

Financial Feminist

Her First $100K

Self-improvement, Education, How To, Business

4.7 • 6.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2023

⏱️ 64 minutes

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If you’ve ever been labeled a perfectionist but always felt some shame around the moniker, this episode is for you. Tori sits down with Katherine Morgan Schafler, author of “The Perfectionist’s Guide to Losing Control,” to talk about how we’ve been viewing perfectionism all wrong, when it’s healthy and when it’s not, and how to wear our perfectionism as a badge of honor instead of shame. Read transcripts, learn more about our guests and sponsors, and get more resources at https://herfirst100k.com/start-here-financial-feminist-podcast Not sure where to start on your financial journey? Take our FREE money personality quiz! https://herfirst100k.com/quiz Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	If you think about when perfectionism is acceptable for women, you might think about a Martha Stewart or a Marie Kondo,
0:10.0	women who are publicly very ambitious, focused, perfectionistic, who have extremely high standards,
0:17.2	but they have high standards being expressed in archetypal homemaker interests,
0:23.2	which are not into a competition of men. And so in those instances, we say, we love your perfectionism,
0:31.8	we are going to syndicate it and monetize it, and celebrate it.
0:39.4	Hello, financial feminists. Welcome back to the show. I'm Tori Dunlap, your host,
0:43.9	financial educator behind your favorite personal finance book, also called financial feminist.
0:47.8	We love brand cohesion and her first 100k, which is a financial education company that helps you
0:54.0	fight the patriarchy while getting fucking rich. We are so excited about today's guest. If you are
1:00.0	really anybody, but especially somebody who identifies as a woman, and if you've ever been called a
1:03.9	perfectionist and felt like it was a dirty word, it was like more an insult than a compliment,
1:10.5	or you felt like, I don't know if being a perfectionist is a good thing. This episode is for you.
1:15.9	Catherine Morgan Schaffler is a psychotherapist, speaker, and author who recently released the
1:20.6	perfectionist's guide to losing control, a path to peace and power. Catherine wrote this book for
1:26.4	all the women who have just been told to pull back on their perfectionism, and instead provides
1:30.9	another path to embracing themselves as they are. This episode truly blew my mind. I have always
1:36.6	believed, especially after listening to multiple people talk about how perfectionism is like,
1:42.4	though reason we can't get shit done as women or the reason that we're holding ourselves back,
1:46.8	it was actually so refreshing to talk to Catherine who has a completely different idea, and she
1:52.4	100% convinced me. It turns out I have a very different definition of perfectionism what it actually is.
1:59.1	And Catherine dived into all different types of perfectionism, including adaptive and maladaptive,
2:04.1	and you're like, I don't know what either of those are. Cool. Listen to the episode. And some of the
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