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Here's Where It Gets Interesting

92. Creating Change Through Radical Optimism with Dr. Paul Zeitz

Here's Where It Gets Interesting

Sharon McMahon

Government, History, Storytelling, Education

4.915.1K Ratings

🗓️ 16 February 2022

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Sharon talks with Dr. Paul Zeitz, author of Waging Optimism, about how to identify our complacency and make a move toward impacting the world around us. Together, the pair discusses how optimism leads to courage, and how courage leads to action. Oftentimes, making change requires experimentation; Plan A doesn’t always work out, so it’s good to have more than one Plan B in place. While it can be easy to feel discouraged that our actions don’t lead to revolutionary change, we can bolster our optimism by remembering that every action ripples outward and carries an impact. Two foundational ways to be a catalyst for change? Always be ready to act and continue to learn new things about how the system works so you can generate ideas on how to improve it.

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0:00.0

Hello, hello! You're here again! Yay! I am so excited and today I'm chatting with Dr. Paul Zites.

0:09.0

Just a world changer and a movement maker and I really think if you have ever felt like

0:16.4

I wish I could change blank about the world, he is going to offer you some incredible

0:24.0

insight, wisdom, practical steps about how to change things that you're unhappy with. I had

0:30.8

many takeaways from this conversation so let's dive in. I'm Sharon Nickman and welcome to the

0:37.2

Sharon Says So Podcast. Thank you so much for joining me today. I am really so excited to hear more

0:45.9

about what you can share with us about a huge variety of topics. So Dr. Paul Zites, thank you so

0:52.2

much for being here. It's an honor to be here with you and your audience. Thank you. Tell everybody

0:57.9

a little bit more about your background and what you do just for some context. Yes, I'm a physician

1:04.1

by training and I let the practice of clinical medicine and started doing clinical advocacy

1:12.3

nearly 30 years ago now and really what it is is looking at the health of the population and the

1:18.2

health of our society, the social determinants of health if you will. And I found that I could serve

1:25.1

the interests of more people by dealing with the underlying causes of ill health or poverty and

1:32.0

things like that. And I've been part of very successful movements like the movement to end global

1:38.2

AIDS and we were able to create a movement environment that led to political commitments that were

1:44.6

bold and transformative. It's really great and fun work. It has to be incredibly gratifying

1:49.8

to feel like what I am doing on a daily basis is actually impacting the world for good.

1:57.3

Well, I used to feel really alone and I've been through a journey of like figuring out how I

2:03.6

as an individual have a vision of what I want the world to be like and then walking out the front

2:10.4

door and there's a great dissonance between what I think is possible but I would like to see happen

2:16.4

and what is actually happening. And I struggled for many years of my life like how do I deal with

2:22.0

that kind of conflict and it's about experimenting and it's about being entrepreneurial in seeking

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