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Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

915: $200mo Background Agents, CLI Tooling and “Max Mode”

Syntax - Tasty Web Development Treats

Wes Bos

Js, Technology, Css, Html5, Tech News, Webdevelopment, News, Javascript, Html

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

AI coding agents are getting wild. Scott and Wes break down the latest tools that run in the background, write code across multiple steps, and charge you $200 a month to do it. From CLI-based primitives to full-on copilots, this episode covers the next wave of dev tools and what it takes to use them effectively. Show Notes 00:00 Welcome to Syntax! 03:13 Background Agents. 04:26 Appropriate tasks for background agents. 12:46 CLI tooling. 14:17 Claude Code Pricing. 18:20 Approaches to get the most from these tools. 19:56 PRD Documents. Atlasian What’s a PRD Document. 20:50 Claude Taskmaster. Langflow. 25:29 Sick Picks & Shameless Plugs. Sick Picks Scott: RingConn. Wes: Dell Projector Shameless Plugs Scott: Syntax on YouTube. Hit us up on Socials! Syntax: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Wes: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Scott: X Instagram Tiktok LinkedIn Threads Randy: X Instagram YouTube Threads

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0:00.0

Welcome to syntax. Today we had an episode for you on background agents, long-running AI tasks.

0:06.9

Some of these coding tools that are significantly more expensive and significantly more autonomous,

0:14.1

being able to run it on your own. Some of that are fine-to-m models. We're talking about like

0:18.5

the Open AI Codex, Claude Code, the new cursor background

0:22.9

agents. They just released a new $200 a month plan. And like I feel like we're on like the cusp of like

0:29.8

another wave of these tools and another wave of what they can do and how we're actually using

0:36.9

them, which is hilarious,

0:37.8

because if you go back to the episode of us at the end of last year, one of my predictions

0:44.1

was, I feel like the AI is going to get like, I feel like we're not going to see any major

0:48.8

improvements this year, you know, we're just going to get significant or a little bit better

0:53.2

here and there. But man, this're just going to get significantly, or a little bit better here and there.

0:54.4

But, man, this stuff is really exciting. And I dove into all the different tools. We're going to

1:00.8

talk about how they work and how you might want to use them. And are they really that much better?

1:05.7

And is it really worth spending 10 times the amount that you're spending on like a copilot subscription or

1:12.7

something like that.

1:13.6

Yeah, one thing I think we did get right was that the AIs themselves might not go through

1:20.3

some extreme evolution, but the way in which we use them will evolve.

1:25.7

And I think already through June here, we're seeing so many different

1:31.1

new, totally different new approaches to interaction with them. And I was actually just got back

1:38.3

from JS Nation and React Summit in Amsterdam, where I was emceeing both days. And I had a lot of conversations

1:47.0

with people about the interfaces in which we interface with AI. And that was like such a huge

1:54.4

topic of conversation more so than like, will the models get better? Will this get better?

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