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Cult Liter with Spencer Henry

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Cult Liter with Spencer Henry

Spencer Henry | Morbid Network | Wondery

True Crime, Exhibit C, Society & Culture, Comedy

4.95.4K Ratings

🗓️ 24 November 2020

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Hiya babes! This week I’m talking alllll about Keith Raniere’s rise from MLM employee to cult leader. I vow to you, ya don’t want to miss this. Thanks to today’s sponsor Hello Fresh visit HelloFresh.com/CULTLITER90 and use code CULTLITER90 for $90 off and FREE SHIPPING HELLLLLLO. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

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0:30.0

Hello and welcome back to Cult Leader. I'm your Cult Leader Spencer Henry has my babes house my little turkeys. I hope everybody is being safe.

0:46.0

I'm sure you can keep everyone safe so you can catch me in hot dog light and under the Christmas tree instead. Hopefully Corona chills out soon. It doesn't seem like it's going that way.

1:02.0

We just got put back on a curfew here. They're closing like outdoor dining. I don't know. It's just what the fuck is this year. Not like next year. It's going to be different. I feel like it's just going to be the same. I don't know. Okay, used to it. I watched Run Last Night on Hulu. It's the new Sarah Paulson movie and it was pretty good. She didn't do her weird cry scream. So I'll dock some points for that. But overall, good movie. People also keep telling me to watch Megan is missing. And I've gotten some messages from you guys saying not to

1:32.0

do so I'm torn. I need I need to be brought one way or the other with that one. I haven't really been watching anything else other than the usual except a million videos interviews press clippings about today's story and it's honestly overwhelming. Unless you've been living under a rock you've heard of today's topic next time. I think one of the most fascinating things about this Cult is how a lot of its practices kind of mirror organizations that are active today organizations you and I have heard of maybe even participated in.

2:01.0

And let me clarify that. So if you've ever worked for like a corporation, maybe they've had you attend a seminar or a training maybe even in school and say they hire a motivational speaker to come to this event meeting whatever it is. And it's that speaker's sole purpose to coerce an emotional reaction from the audience. They do that to break you down and make you emotionally vulnerable. And it creates this reaction that a lot of times makes people feel closer to their jobs because they've had this emotional experience.

2:29.0

They now have this tie to it like some consciously and it never sits right with me. I've worked for a few companies in the past that do these activities and it does feel very cultish. You'll see what I'm talking about more later on. But at the end of the day I'm not saying it's all done maliciously and it's not even always a bad thing. I think it can create camaraderie. But there's something to be said about it all it feels a little off. And I have to be honest. Nexteem was never a cult that stood out to me. I don't want to downplay the atrocities that took place for the victims.

2:58.0

But overall it wasn't a story that I planned on covering because nothing about it drew me in or left me feeling like I need to know more when the news first broke that there was a sex cult involving some members of Hollywood. I chalked it up to creative article headings and weird Hollywood woo woo. But recently I decided, hey, why not take a closer look? And then I heard about Gina Hutchinson's story. And Christina Snyder, two women who died seemingly as a direct effect of whatever was happening here.

3:27.0

And the more I uncovered, the more I wondered, how was this guy able to pull this off? This is cult leader. My episodes are the length they are because my goal has always been to tell you guys the story as if you were just sitting with your friend who talks too much.

3:40.0

So I want to give you a heads up on the way that I'm going to do a rundown of this episode because I want to give a quick rundown of course on Keith's childhood education and all that stuff.

3:48.0

I want to talk about how nexium came to be because it was a pretty interesting journey. And then I just want to go off into the different sectors, talk about what was actually happening.

3:58.0

So I don't know if I'm going to do like the most thorough run through of the cult as a whole because I do want to dive into these little sectors.

4:07.0

But there's a lot of good shows about nexium. There's the vow on HBO. There's one called seduced inside the nexium cult on stars. And then there's of course just a ton of like 2020 episodes and stuff on YouTube.

4:19.0

Keith was born on August 26th of 1960 to his father James an advertising executive and his mom Vera a ballroom dancing instructor, which there's nothing more glamorous than that.

4:30.0

His mom was a bit of a lush according to Keith's father a claim Keith would later confirm she loved a cocktail. His early years were spent growing up in Brooklyn until he was five, which is when his family relocated to Suffern, which is about like 30 miles

4:46.0

in North of Manhattan. Three years after the move James and Vera ended up splitting I believe her alcoholism was a catalyst in the separation and Keith it didn't really take a huge effect on him. He did well in school. He was a smart kid. He graduated high school in June of 1978.

5:02.0

He was just too much shy of his 18th birthday though he would later tell people that he went to college at 16 because he was a self proclaimed prodigy. He did see one story that he took this IQ test and I guess he got into the Guinness book of world records because he tested so high on his IQ.

5:19.0

So I think he was maybe on paper a genius but I think he really thought he was something throughout school Keith was a ladies man apparently girls would call the house day a night and Keith would tell all of them the same thing.

5:33.0

I love you you're the special one you're important you're the only one in my life with just wow I've heard that one before in 1982 he graduate from RPI which is Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy New York.

5:46.0

The first thing real thing that actually made me be like oh this dude's fuck happened in 1984 when he was 24 years old he had met this local 15 year old named Gina at a theater group.

5:56.0

Again he's 24 and the pair began a sexual relationship and I'm sure how to phrase that exactly because it was consensual but she was 15 so I guess we will just call it statutory rape.

6:07.0

Sounds right they couldn't keep their relationship private for a long however because the two were eventually caught when Gina's older sister Heidi saw Keith climbing out of Gina's window one night.

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