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The Owen Jones Podcast

91. Ed Miliband on thinking big, regrets, the climate emergency, and what Labour stands for

The Owen Jones Podcast

Owen Jones

Government, News, News & Politics, Politics

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2021

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Ed Miliband regrets not being bolder when he was Labour leader, and his new book - 'GO BIG: How To Fix Our World' - is bursting with ideas, like universal basic income, citizens assemblies, a housing revolution, a Green New Deal, and why struggle from below pays off. We talk about how a world wracked with crisis needs courageous and bold ideas - and I ask why Labour is failing to dismally to offer an inspiring alternative.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the podcast. Today, Edmila Band, of course, the previous Labour leader,

0:13.6

he is now in the Shadow Cabinet but Edmila Band 2.0 is quite fascinating because he regrets

0:18.6

not being bold when he is leader. Now he is bursting with ideas, his new book Go Big

0:26.0

is full of the sorts of ambitious ideas that he thinks a government should be doing right

0:32.8

now. But interesting, does that really fit with what the current Labour leadership is

0:39.5

doing? So I talk about his ideas, about his political regrets and yeah, his Labour offering

0:45.2

or radical alternative. It's a very interesting conversation. Ed is a great guy and I think

0:51.8

one of the nicest guys ever met in politics and that shines through this interview. Do support

0:56.6

the podcast. You keep the show on the road with patreon.com. For us on Joe's 84, you help

1:01.0

to side what we talk about, our documentaries and so on. Do subscribe to the podcast even,

1:07.8

give us five stars if you feel so enamoured with it. And with that, please listen to me and Ed.

1:15.3

I am very honoured to have Edmila Band with me. I mean, I'm not really honoured. You're not really.

1:19.9

I am hugely honoured. Ed, don't get your snarky little digs in the outset. I won't allow it.

1:27.3

It's great to have you. I'm not going to bother introducing you because if people don't know who

1:30.2

you are, it's just a bit odd. We are going to talk about your actually very, very good book.

1:37.1

Everyone should read this book. It is actually. It is. It's a great book. It's called Go Big,

1:44.1

how to fix the world. For regular viewers who are confused about this setup, what actually

1:48.2

currently in Somerset in a hotel room, 26 minutes before we're supposed to be kicked out. So

1:55.0

that's that ticking time. Did they might give you a bit of extra time? I think we've explained

2:00.3

to them that we're interviewing you. So that might get you to earlier though. We'll see how that

2:07.8

one fans out. I don't know. I haven't asked their opinions. I haven't asked the receptionist

2:14.2

desks opinions on you. Why not? Well, I will on the way out. No, no, no. Okay. Don't.

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