Hey everyone, this is Patrick Mason.

Last year's Restore Gathering was one of the highlights of my year, and this year's

gathering is going to be even bigger and better.

In addition to the fantastic lineup of speakers, there will be amazing art, and we promise

the music will be better than your word choir.

So come join us at Restore on October 13th and 14th at the Mountain America Expo Center

in Sandy, Utah.

For tickets, go to faithmatters.org slash restore, and see you there.

Hey everybody, this is Aubrey Chavez from Faith Matters.

To give a little background on today's episode, we recently read a book called The Short

Stay in Hell by Stephen Peck, who's a professor of biology and bioethics at BYU, and an award-winning

fiction author.

The book is a remarkable and frankly terrifying exploration of a concept of hell that calls

him to question the very nature of eternity, meaning, and relationship.

As we talked with each other about this book, we realized that exploring the latter days

ain't concept of hell.

In relationship to other healthyologies would be really fascinating, but more importantly,

as Steve's book indicated, it would provide an opportunity for us to dive deep on what

we mean when we say eternity, and what our unique faith tradition has to teach us and share

with the world about the nature of an endlessly loving God, life after death, and human potential.

So we asked Steve to join us and talk a little bit about his book, and we brought Tarot

Gibbons on as an additional conversation partner to help round out some of these concepts,

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