Hello and welcome again to the famous CFC podcast where each episode explores a different

story from Chelsea's rich and marvellous history. My name is Gary Brode and I'm joined

as usual by FabiStoring Rick Glenville. I am eight. Well Rick, when he comes to football

and rivalries, what change do you most want to be? I know you want to be all of them,

but if you had to accuse one, who would it be? Well, seeing as I was born half a while

from their ground and most of my dad's family supported them, I do love, oh, and also going

to school in North London and they're surrounded by their supporters. I do love to be a bit

of a snot. A snot, right. Well, fun enough. This episode will be the first of a strand

about how historic rivals and you kick off in timely fashion as we are playing them

next weekend. We'll be investigating our relationship with a red side of North London,

a show we'll be calling the Arsenal Roast. It's a Gary, well, they're your team you

most love to be or are they not by down the list? They probably are, but the team I want

to be is always a team we're going to play next. Oh, politicians answer. When there's

not a game, Arsenal, yeah, when when I was young, my dad used to say, oh, playing Arsenal

was not going to the MCC. I think it was like the establishment and it was like the people

who were somehow above us and he resented there. And I've made me a picked up one or two of

his thoughts on that as well over the years. It just sounds like a load of marble halls

to me, right? Anyway, so much rare memories. Don't the fact show, though, Rick, and you

got the honest here that they are much more successful than we are. That's what they told

us. And when we were young, I think they hope that was certainly true, but it does depend how

you slice it. I mean, for example, we've won 28 major pieces of silver worth since World War

2. And I'll still have won how many dragons? 22. So, so quite substantially more. And that is

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