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🗓️ 13 November 2018
⏱️ 29 minutes
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The inquiry heard how the Metropolitan Police and London Ambulance Service struggled to give advice to residents trapped in the tower who had called 999.
Neil Jerome, told the inquiry he didn’t know why the change in stay put advice wasn’t communicated to the police. Paul Woodrow, the director of operations for the London Ambulance Service explained why paramedics did not enter the tower.
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0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts. |
0:05.0 | Hello, this is the Grenfell Tower Inquiry podcast, reporting every day the inquiry sits. |
0:10.4 | I'm Eddie Mayer, and today the inquiry heard how the Metropolitan Police and London Ambulance Service |
0:14.9 | struggled to give advice to residents trapped in the tower who'd called 999. |
0:20.5 | Police commander Neil Jerome continued to give |
0:22.9 | evidence. He arrived at Grenfell Tower at 410, and at 420 he took charge of the police operation |
0:29.0 | on the ground. Lead counsel to the inquiry, Richard Millett, asked Neil Jerome what 999 fire call |
0:35.4 | training had been given to police call handlers before Grenfell. |
0:39.0 | In general terms, how experienced is the MetCC, as a control room, |
0:46.1 | in giving advice to call us from burning buildings? |
0:50.7 | That would be certainly in this instance quite rare, albeit that, as I said in my evidence yesterday, |
0:59.0 | it is not uncommon to receive fire calls about tower blocks. |
1:05.9 | But in these circumstances, this is very, very rare. |
1:09.7 | The advice being given to residents to stay in their flats |
1:12.4 | if they weren't affected by fire, heat or smoke, advice known as stay put, was changed by the London |
1:18.5 | Fire Brigade around 2.35. But that information was not passed on to the police until after three o'clock. |
1:26.0 | Neil Jerome told the inquiry he didn't know why. |
1:29.3 | If in fact the Metcc was giving stay put advice at or around this time 305, then assuming that |
1:40.2 | that was not the same advice as the advice now being given by the LFB. My question is, |
1:46.9 | is that consistent with the approach required by the principles of joint working as set out in the |
1:52.1 | Jesuit document, the joint doctrine interoperability framework? Clearly, in the interest of Jessup |
2:00.6 | and that joint working and the sharing of information, |
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