Hour number two Jeff Cameron Show 93, 3 real talk,

we're doing our chant TV on a redemption Thursday.

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You know what, I was doing during the break, Tom? It occurred to me while I was doing it that this is the kind of thing that happens when you're terrible, but it's also the kind of thing that happens when there are some unprecedented things that occur to start a season.

So we know that Florida State hasn't won yet this year, has looked bad in all three games,

and we know that Florida is not very good.

Is obviously you know on the verge we think of certainly firing their head coach.

So you get questions from people like, hey, when was the

last time the two teams started a year in which they combined to win one game in

six? This is like how you end up going back and you end up trying to check for records that occurred, you know, I know and for example I know in

I know in 1976 Florida State started the year, oh and three.

I was like, okay, but they lost to...

By the way, in 1976, Florida State started the year,

oh and three, their first loss was to Memphis.

But after that, in fairness to that team they lost to

Oklahoma and they lost to Miami which was the second or yeah second game of the

year was Miami then Oklahoma so that's

hilarious you're like oh well okay and it's not like Miami was any great shakes but

still it was a rivalry game whatever and then you lost to Oklahoma it was good and I know that in Charlie I remember this from this is from memory and this

because I'm old time you're gonna laugh at me I do remember as when I was a kid because my stepdad as I've said on this show many times as a

UF law grad he loves Florida football that Charlie Pell's first year he didn't win a game

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