9/15/25: A dangerous moment for the US after Kirk shooting
The David Pakman Show
David Pakman
4.6 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 15 September 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
-- On the Show:
-- Every major Democratic voice and mainstream left commentator condemns Charlie Kirk’s murder, while Donald Trump and many on the right turn violence into mockery
-- The Charlie Kirk shooting shows that a pro-gun, two-parent, law-enforcement family upbringing does not prevent shootings
-- Kari Lake falsely blames college radicalization for Charlie Kirk's murder despite his killer's single virtual semester at Utah State University
-- Trump and MAGA leaders pivot from facts to blaming platforms and push a crackdown that targets independent social media
-- Trump uses a press conference about the Charlie Kirk killing to attack the left and repeat false narratives about investigations
-- Trump responds to a condolence question about Charlie Kirk by pivoting to brag about the White House ballroom project
-- Eric Trump frames Charlie Kirk’s death as proof of a “sleeping enemy” awoken and issues thinly veiled threats of retribution
-- Fox News host Brian Kilmeade suggests involuntary lethal injection for people experiencing homelessness
-- Calls to release full Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell records continue
-- On the Bonus Show: Right-wing blames Charlie Kirk murder on "fascist" label, MSNBC vs Fox double standards over incendiary rhetoric, Kathy Hochul endorses Zohran Mamdani, and much more...
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(00:00) Kirk’s murder condemned, right mocks violence
(07:39) Upbringing doesn’t prevent shootings
(18:09) Kari Lake wrongly blames college
(26:42) Trump/MAGA blame platforms, target social media
(33:54) Trump attacks left, spreads false narratives
(40:12) Trump pivots to White House ballroom brag
(44:11) Eric Trump frames Kirk’s death as “enemy” awakening
(50:28) Kilmeade suggests lethal injection for homeless
(57:56) Calls for Epstein/Maxwell records continue
Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome, everybody. |
| 0:08.9 | It is definitely the only time I can remember where doing this sort of work has felt like this. |
| 0:18.1 | And I have had a lot of conversations with creators over the weekend, having more |
| 0:23.0 | of those conversations today. And there are a lot of really important things I think to talk |
| 0:27.8 | about in the wake of this Charlie Kirk murder. And one of the things I want to start with |
| 0:32.4 | is this concept of condemnation. Anyone who knows me, you all know, I've already condemned Charlie Kirk's |
| 0:39.8 | murder. There's no except for but or anything. We can talk about his political views. We can talk |
| 0:47.3 | about whether we feel empathy for him, but I have condemned the murder and everyone I know on the left has done the same. |
| 0:57.1 | Every serious person on the left has done the same. |
| 1:00.3 | Maga insists that the left is cheering this on. |
| 1:04.8 | And that's just not true. |
| 1:06.5 | You know, except in the most like random anecdotal corners of the internet, the left has denounced |
| 1:14.6 | this. Elon Musk, for example, retweeted some account with close to zero followers saying |
| 1:21.2 | something horrible. But the reality is that every notable left-wing voice, every major Democratic figure, elected officials |
| 1:30.0 | at the state, local, federal level, every mainstream commentator, everyone has condemned what |
| 1:37.2 | took place. Now, there are some people who have clarified, I don't feel empathy for Charlie Kirk personally because I found his political |
| 1:46.7 | views vile, because of the damage that he caused, the disinformation, the bigotry, fine. But even |
| 1:55.3 | those people have condemned the violence, and that is a really important distinction. |
| 2:01.3 | You don't have to suddenly feel empathy for Charlie Kirk as a person to say unequivocally |
| 2:08.5 | with no mitigation ifs, sands, or buts whatsoever. |
| 2:13.0 | This kind of violence is wrong, period. |
| 2:15.8 | And that is where there is now a really important contrast that |
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