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Stories Are Soul Food

89: Moses Was A Wizard

Stories Are Soul Food

Canon Press

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8787 Ratings

🗓️ 3 October 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Is a book with a good witch a bad book? The guys use the Wizard of Oz as a jumping off point for this lengthy discussion of magic, which listeners know is a favorite SASF hobbyhorse. Nate claims that moderns have lost an appreciation for the miraculous in an attempt to describe the natural. In reality, everything is magic. But Brian objects: if everything is magical, then nothing is. Nate responds with MOSES AND THE WIZARD DUEL. Of course Tolkien and Lewis -- and Gandalf and Jadis -- also feature in this discussion that will get you thinking about your favorite stories... and how our scientists have crossed the line into witchcraft long ago.#SASF #StoriesAreSoulFood #magic #science #Tolkien #CSLewis

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Stories Our Soul Food Podcast, presented by Cannonball Books, the kids' fiction imprint of Canon Press.

0:07.9

Met a ghost of a king on the road when I first fell.

0:11.8

Fire burning to my knees to my knees I fell.

0:14.9

Made a ghost of a king on a row.

0:17.1

One would think as an American fantasy novelist that you would see much in common with

0:23.8

the Wizard of Oz and Frank L. Baum.

0:27.7

But you never talk about him except to say that that's why you said it where you said it.

0:33.7

And so I kind of wanted, I had questions about that.

0:36.8

And in fact, so did other people.

0:38.4

They said, I was just reading this to my daughter and it was weird and she thought it was

0:42.5

problematic, but I'm just more asking you the question.

0:45.8

Problematic.

0:46.6

That's one of those words.

0:47.6

How dare she?

0:50.2

Good thing I didn't mention your name.

0:52.1

I don't know your daughter, but how dare she?

0:54.8

Yeah.

0:55.2

I think it was problematic.

0:56.3

Okay, why?

0:57.0

Why?

0:57.9

Well, does anybody unpack that?

1:00.4

Why it's problematic?

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