88 – …Just Before Dawn (Fall of the Mutants, Part 3 of 3)
Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men
Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes
4.7 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 21 December 2015
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
In which X-Factor finally comes out ahead; Jay and Miles weigh in on the X-Men: Apocalypse trailer; En Sabah Nur is better at theater than tactics; no one does scale like Simonson; Iceman pulls an Xavier; Cyclops and Marvel Girl totally do it; and we conclude our three-part coverage of Fall of the Mutants.
X-PLAINED:
- A potential (but unlikely) vector for resurrecting Cyclops-616
- Events vs. crossovers
- Our thoughts on the X-Men: Apocalypse trailer
- X-Factor #24-26
- Power Pack #35
- Incredible Hulk #340
- Captain America #339
- Fantastic Four #312
- Daredevil #252
- Newsletters of Apocalypse
- Some deeply dubious immunology
- The fall of Caliban
- Sense of scale
- The kiss we’ve been waiting for
- Teen Titans Wasteland
- A recognizable ruse
- A thematically significant crash landing
- Some long-awaited resolution
- How to judge an original-5 book
- Sweatsuits of Apocalypse
- The iconic X-Factor costumes
- Fall of the Mutants tie-ins
- Emus
- The best-dressed X-Men
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| 0:00.0 | Man, I can't believe Cyclops 616 is dead. |
| 0:03.0 | Well, it's not like it's the first time, and I mean, there is a backup. |
| 0:07.0 | Still though? |
| 0:08.0 | Yeah. |
| 0:09.0 | I think they'll bring him back? |
| 0:10.0 | Well, sooner or later, sure. |
| 0:11.0 | Yeah, a lot of people seem to be expecting him to come back as a horseman and |
| 0:14.1 | apocalypse wars. |
| 0:15.1 | Oh, man, that it makes so much sense. |
| 0:17.6 | My money would be on war. |
| 0:19.2 | War is definitely the best thematic fit, but protagonists almost always end up death so that's where my |
| 0:25.0 | bet is you know unless what? Well Cyclops has never been a horseman in 616 |
| 0:31.0 | before has he been one in any continuity Oh yeah he's famine in the revived |
| 0:34.5 | age of apocalypse but the thing is 616 Cyclops does have a history with Ensebarnor. |
| 0:39.4 | Sure because of Nathan and Sinister an ex-factor in general. |
| 0:44.0 | No, no, dude, the 12. |
| 0:45.8 | Wasn't his job in the 12 basically just to represent the power of family? |
| 0:49.8 | Sure, initially. |
| 0:51.1 | But he ended up being a wrench in the gears, and he did that in a way that means that if they do bring Cyclops back during Apocalypse Wars, he might come back as something significantly bigger than a horseman. |
| 1:02.0 | What's bigger than a horseman. What's bigger than a horseman? |
| 1:03.7 | Apocalypse! |
| 1:04.8 | What? I'm J. Rachel Eddittin and I'm Miles Stokes. And we are here to explain the X-Men. |
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