We like to throw rocks at the people who don't see the world in the way we do.

I don't know why.

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So we can talk more about that towards the end about where you're believing now.

So it sounds like, and I'm so sorry for your loss, I can't imagine what that would be like.

We had some miscarriages but not still born.

I think that's a whole other level of difficulty of tragedy.

So I'm so sorry.

Thank you.

So it sounds like that kind of put the discussion or even the pursuit of questioning on pause for some time.

Yeah, I think,

although communication wise, right, I'm just still wrestling with these problems by myself.

Actually, so it was October 20th of 2015 that we lost our baby.

And it was just shortly, not even a month later, they came out with the stance on the LGBTQ issues.

So I think that the November 2000, yeah, I think that kind of a cause an up an uproar in our like our questions.

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