The state of California has been a very popular discussion amongst Americans for

several years now. There is a mass exodus of people fleeing that state, literally

hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people who are considering themselves political refugees are fleeing the state.

My next guest actually ran for governor against the famous Gavin Newsom and lost surprisingly.

But we brought him in. We brought him in because we want to dive into just exactly what the heck is going on in that state. And so ladies and gentlemen, if you get anything out of these podcasts please head over to Apple

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and ladies and gentlemen, without further ado,

please welcome my next guest, Mr. Michael Schellenberger.

Michael Schellenberger, welcome to the show. Thanks much for having me, Sean.

It's really happy to be here.

It's, I've been trying to get a hold of you for a long time and we finally connected over the the UFO whistleblower stuff. You used a couple

of my things for a piece that you wrote and I want to thank you for for doing that. That

really helped me out and I'm just happy that you made it to

Tennessee and that you're sitting here and we're gonna have a great

conversation. Well thanks so much for having me. I really appreciate what you've done for veterans. It's very moving. It's apparent your concern and your passion for that community, and I really appreciate that.

Thank you. I've come to see the importance of that community more than ever including on the

UAP stuff since so many people are coming from that community and taking risks to step forward.

So, yeah, appreciate you for that.

Thank you.

So we're here to talk all about California.

So, we're in Tennessee, There are a ton of Californians moving here. In fact, one of my friends,

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