87 – It’s Always Darkest… (Fall of the Mutants, Part 2 of 3)
Jay & Miles X-Plain the X-Men
Jay Edidin & Miles Stokes
4.7 • 1.9K Ratings
🗓️ 14 December 2015
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
In which the New Mutants learn that they are not, in fact, immortal; Louise Simonson finds her stride; the Ani-Mator makes Cameron Hodge look downright reasonable; hating humans is Magneto’s security blanket; Doug Ramsey dies; and we continue our coverage of the Fall of the Mutants.
X-PLAINED:
- Sugar Man
- New Mutants #59-61
- Bird Brain
- The Ani-Mator
- The Ani-Mates
- Stylistic whiplash
- Why you always leave a note
- The death of Doug Ramsey
- Black Condor’s amazing origin story
- Interpersonal dynamics in New Mutants
- Parsing ongoing series
- Why Doug died
- 616 characters we’d trade for their Battleworld counterparts
- Storytelling trends and the decline of though balloons
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| 0:00.0 | So I was thinking about secret wars and all new marvel as one does people keep talking about how it's this mash-up timeline but it's really always been one hasn't it? I mean Rachel Summers is from Earth 811, Bishop is from Earth 1191. God only knows where their current magic comes from. |
| 0:14.0 | Exactly. |
| 0:15.0 | And there are all the refugees from Age of Apocalypse, Dark Beast, X-Man. |
| 0:19.0 | Sugar Man. |
| 0:20.0 | Oh God, I'd forgotten about that guy. |
| 0:22.0 | Whatever happened to him anyway, is he still around? |
| 0:24.1 | Nah, I think Magnito killed him a few months back. |
| 0:26.5 | I'm okay with that. |
| 0:28.0 | Me too. |
| 0:28.6 | God, he was so creepy. |
| 0:30.4 | How did he survive age of apocalypse anyway? He was such a weird big character. |
| 0:34.0 | Well, in AOA he'd been running one of the human work camps, the Portland Corps. |
| 0:38.0 | Hey, a hometown villain! |
| 0:39.0 | I am so uncomfortable with how happy you sound about that. |
| 0:42.0 | Anyway, Generation Next took down the core, but Sugar Man survived by shrinking himself way down and stowing away in Colossus's boot. |
| 0:49.2 | He can do that? |
| 0:50.7 | He's a versatile villain. |
| 0:51.9 | Anyway, Sugar Man Road Colossus all the way to Apocalypse's Citadel, |
| 0:55.0 | then hitched a ride on the M-Cron Crystals 20 years in the past of 616, |
| 0:59.0 | where he secretly engineered the founding of Genosha. |
| 1:01.0 | Okay. |
| 1:02.0 | Teemed up occasionally with Dark Beast. |
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