I have never heard the term deep ass dive.

It does kind of suggest a saucy, maybe a risque nature, perhaps. I don't know. I don't know if this part's on the pot.

It does. Thinking Basketball Podcast, my name is Ben. Welcome back to yet another episode. Our first

off-season episode, although it doesn't feel like the off-season still because of the rumor mill and the trade season

free agency and Russell Westbrook plays for the Lakers and I can't figure out

what's going on and then of course there's a draft.

So to help hold my hand and walk me through it all, my unofficial therapist, the film, the film

film aficionado of the ringer

YouTube legend dime drop the one and only jay Kyle man

what an intro man that was uh I feel like I mean you're

debt for that you really went above and beyond with your your adjectives and

calling me your therapist.

I don't know where it came from.

It just came out of me.

I've heard that one before.

I, um, you, uh, you said something that, that, that is interesting to me.

Did you have this moment after the finals were over?

It took me a minute to like really actualize

that the NBA season was over.

Like it took me like a few days where I was like,

wait a minute.

It was almost like, like going through some kind of,

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