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Hey listeners, it's Lindsay Smith Rogers. Today, the truth about seed oils.

Some influencers have been warning that seed oils, especially a group now dubbed the

hateful eight, are making us sick and should be avoided.

But Stanford's Christopher Gardner tells Stephanie Desmond that decades of research actually

shows that seed oils are part of a healthy diet, and proposed substitutes like

butter, lard, and beef tallow are actually far more dangerous. Let's listen. Christopher Gardner,

thanks so much for joining me. Stephanie, pleasure to be here. I'd like to talk today about seed oils.

And before we can even start, I need you to please tell me, what are

seed oils? So they come from seeds. So all seed plants have oils in them as part of their

structures. So this would be sunflower, safflower, canola, rapeseed. You can think of all the things,

sesame seed, flax seed. There's just a lot of oils out there.

And most importantly, we cook with them.

And that's one of the issues that's come up is not just eating seeds that have oils in them.

Nuts and seeds both have oils in them.

But some of these oils we cook with.

I think that's going to be a particular interest today.

So groups out there have labeled these the hateful eight.

So I'm curious where these hateful eight oils label came from and why it's important that it's out there.

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