857 - The Concepts Behind The Language of Equity
Public Health On Call
The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
4.8 • 620 Ratings
🗓️ 25 February 2025
⏱️ 16 minutes
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Summary
About this episode:
In today’s episode: A discussion with Dr. Lisa Cooper, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Equity, about opposition to the terms "diversity," "equity," and "inclusion."
Guests:
Dr. Lisa Cooper is a public health physician, a Bloomberg Distinguished Professor at Johns Hopkins and a winner of a MacArthur genius grant for her work to understand and reduce health disparities.
Host:
Dr. Josh Sharfstein is vice dean for public health practice and community engagement at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, a faculty member in health policy, a pediatrician, and former secretary of Maryland’s Health Department.
Show links and related content:
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Why Are Health Disparities Everyone’s Problem?—Public Health On Call (February, 2022)
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Higher Bar For Health Care—Johns Hopkins Magazine
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Public Health On Call, a podcast from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, |
| 0:05.9 | where we bring evidence, experience, and perspective to make sense of today's leading health challenges. |
| 0:16.3 | If you have questions or ideas for us, please send an email to public health question at jhhhu.edu. |
| 0:23.8 | That's public health question at jhhu.edu for future podcast episodes. |
| 0:29.6 | Hey listeners, this is Lindsay Smith-Rogers. |
| 0:32.7 | Today, what do the terms diversity, equity, and inclusion really mean? |
| 0:39.0 | Dr. Lisa Cooper is a Bloomberg distinguished professor at Johns Hopkins and a winner of a |
| 0:43.4 | MacArthur Genius grant for her work to understand and reduce health disparities. |
| 0:48.4 | She speaks with Dr. Josh Sharfstein about recent directives about DEI and her hope for a more |
| 0:53.9 | meaningful national conversation about pervasive and her hope for a more meaningful national conversation |
| 0:55.5 | about pervasive and significant gaps in health. Let's listen. Dr. Lisa Cooper, it is great to see you |
| 1:03.4 | and to have you back on public health on call. How are you doing today? Fine. Thanks for having me. |
| 1:09.5 | I think you've been on the podcast a few times over the years, and I remember once to talk about your book, which is called Why Are Health Disparities Everyone's Problem. Do you remember that podcast? |
| 1:20.6 | I sure do. It's hard to believe that it's been almost four years. |
| 1:25.6 | Well, it has been, believe it or not, and it's a topic that |
| 1:30.7 | it seems like we're going to need to talk a little bit more about, given some of the |
| 1:35.1 | developments that we've had these days. Yes, I couldn't agree more. So maybe just to refresh |
| 1:42.3 | our memories since it's been a while, what was the basic argument that you made in your book? |
| 1:47.1 | So the basic argument I made in the book was that, you know, that really everyone should care about health disparities because it's a human experience that many of us share, if not everyone. Either we belong to a group |
| 2:05.7 | that experiences health disparities or we know someone who does. But regardless, we all live with |
| 2:12.8 | health disparities around us because we know that across the globe, whether it's between countries or |
| 2:18.0 | within countries, there are certain groups that have much more opportunity to be healthy than |
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