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The Counsel of Trent

#852 - The REAL PROBLEM with Hoping HELL is EMPTY

The Counsel of Trent

Catholic Answers

Religion & Spirituality

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2024

⏱️ 10 minutes

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In this episode, Trent examines the biggest problem with those who focus on hoping that Hell is empty.

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0:00.0

Recently Pope Francis has said he likes to think hell is empty and Bishop Robert Barron has also defended the view that we can reasonably hope that all men will be saved.

0:10.0

In response a lot of Catholics have called this heretical, but they focused on secondary issues more than the primary problem with this view.

0:18.0

So let's talk about the real problem with Christians who say that they hope hell is empty.

0:22.0

First, we need to distinguish what Pope Francis and Bishop Barron say about hell

0:26.6

from heresy known as universalism.

0:28.9

This is the view that we can have definite knowledge

0:32.0

that every single human being or even every single creature,

0:35.2

including the devil and all the demons, will eventually be saved and spend eternity in heaven,

0:40.6

even if they have to go through purgatory first. But if that's true, then those who reject

0:46.1

the gospel would not be the lost that Jesus came to save, as it says in Luke 1910.

0:52.0

They would just be the delayed who have to wait a little bit longer for their heavenly rewards.

0:58.0

That's one reason why universalism has been rejected throughout church history.

1:03.1

The Protestant scholar Richard Boccombe writes,

1:05.8

until the 19th century almost all Christian theologians

1:08.9

taught the reality of eternal torment in hell.

1:11.8

Here and there outside the theological mainstream, were some who believe

1:15.4

that the wicked would be finally annihilated. Even fewer were the advocates of universal

1:19.9

salvation. Universalists cite passages in scripture that speak about Christ dying for

1:24.8

everyone, which is true, but that doesn't mean everyone will freely accept the

1:29.0

graces that Christ's death on the cross merited for them. Universalists also cite passages

1:33.9

like 1 Corinthians 1522 where Paul says, for as an atom all die, so also in Christ

1:39.5

shall all be made alive. But this doesn't mean through Christ all people shall be brought

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