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849: How the Humanity of Jesus Redeems our Pain: Kurt Willems

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Theology in the Raw

Theology, Politics, Christianity, Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Discipleship

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🗓️ 15 March 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Kurt is the author of the brand new book: Echoing Hope: How the Humanity of Jesus Redeems Our Pain (https://www.amazon.com/Echoing-Hope-Humanity-Jesus-Redeems/dp/0593193504/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=kurt+willems&qid=1613502655&sr=8-1) And his forms the bulk of our discussion. Do we believe Jesus was really human? Do we overemphasize his deity and therefore lose out on embracing the beauty of his humanity? When did Jesus realize he was God? Do his miracles prove his divinity or show that he was empowered by the Spirit? 

Kurt Willems is a pastor, writer, and spiritual director. After several years in student and adult church ministry in Central California, he partnered with the Brethren in Christ to plant a Christian community in Seattle called Pangea Church. Kurt maintains a resource website, which hosts articles and podcasts, called Theology Curator (formerly called, The Paulcast). He is passionate about taking dense ideas and communicating them in ways that are empowering for people in all walks of life. He holds a master of divinity degree from Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary and a master's degree in comparative religion from the University of Washington (where he focused on the historical Paul within Judaism and the Roman Empire). Kurt also completed a two-year training program to become a spiritual director called, Stewards of the Mystery. His wife, Lauren, is a special education teacher. They have two amazing, young daughters. 


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Theology in the Raw. My guest today is, and we talk about this at the beginning of the

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podcast, is a friend of mine who I've never met in person. Isn't that so 2021? I've known of

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Kurt Williams for almost 10 years, maybe eight plus years. We've been corresponding through

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email. We've talked on the phone. We've read each other's blogs and promoted each other's stuff.

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He's just a very one of those guys you meet and you just kind of finish each other's sentences.

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I love his heart. Just so you get to know a little bit about him. He's a pastor, writer, spiritual

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director. He spent several years in student and adult ministry in central California. That's

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another commonality we have. I grew up in Fresno, California. Kurt grew up in Dinuba, which

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probably three of you have heard of Dinuba, but Dinuba, maybe five of you have heard of Fresno.

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Dinuba is just a little country town, maybe half our way from Fresno. I grew up, I mean,

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plain baseball in Dinuba. So really interesting that our paths have crossed again here more recently.

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He is, well, he has a master of divinity from Fresno Pacific biblical seminary and a master's

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degree in comparative religion from the University of Washington. He also runs a podcast called

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Theology Curator. He used to be called the Paul Cast and also, I came across him, I think

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originally when he was blogging at Pangea, his Pangea blog, which he's rolled that into another blog.

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I forget the name of it. He talks about it on the podcast. Married, he's married. He's got two

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daughters and he has planted a church. I mean, several years, seven years ago, he planted a

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