847: Tom Christofferson - That We May Be One Pt. 3
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 25 December 2017
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Our special Christmas Morning release on Mormon Stories Podcast includes an interview with Tom Christofferson about his book “That We May Be One.”
Tom shares the story of voluntary excommunication from the LDS Church in order to live his life as a gay man—a life that included a fulfilling relationship with a partner and acceptance from his family including brother D. Todd Christofferson—Apostle in the LDS Church.  Sensing a void in his spiritual life, Tom began attending a local meetinghouse of the Church with the support of its leadership. Over time his relationship with his partner ended and his relationship with the Church began again.
We ask Tom about his experience outlined in his book and delve deeper into the impacts his returning to the church had on his relationship with his partner, and on his spiritual self.  We also ask Tom tougher questions about whether his brother’s apostleship affords him greater privilege as a member of the Mormon LGBTQ community, his thoughts on the November 2015 policy on children of same-sex parents denied baptism, and his being held up as a role model (intended or not) for Mormon LGBTQ youth to choose a life of celibacy in the LDS Church.
We thank Tom for this fascinating interview and hope it furthers the conversation on reconciling sexuality with faith!
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| 0:33.0 | All right. What feedback have you received from the book? |
| 0:43.0 | Could you have categories or kind of buckets of primary feedback? |
| 0:47.0 | And let's just say that do the hard stuff first or the negative stuff first and then the positive stuff. |
| 0:53.0 | If you're comfortable with that. |
| 0:55.0 | I would say the hardest one. |
| 1:00.0 | I don't want to identify it in such a way that gives them any publicity. |
| 1:07.0 | But a website, a blog post that was personally cruel in our comments about their view that anyone who talks about accepting gay people has missed the point that Christ will change us. |
| 1:28.0 | Because I didn't talk about that as the right answer that I am anti-Christ and a few other things. |
| 1:39.0 | I was stunned that anyone would be like a evangelical Christian view. |
| 1:44.0 | Well, I would say a fundamentalist Mormon view. |
| 1:50.0 | And they're wanting you to condemn, be more condemnatory. |
| 1:55.0 | Well, yeah, that there is essentially it's the old thing of if you have not been changed is because you lack faith or haven't worked hard enough. |
| 2:04.0 | And therefore because of my message that I'm anti-Christ. |
| 2:08.0 | So that was that was the one that I've done most. |
| 2:12.0 | I'm sorry. |
| 2:14.0 | Did it like sometimes if you get a thick enough skin, you can just be like, oh, they don't, you know, they don't understand. |
| 2:20.0 | Bless them. Did that. |
| 2:22.0 | I got there, but that one took a few days because I just I was so cruel personally cruel. |
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