Hello, friends. Welcome back to another episode of Theology in Iraq. I have on the show today

Thabidi Anjiboule, who is a pastor and author and has become kind of a prophetic voice in American

even gelicalism. And he's been a, yeah, he's been a, he's been a, he's currently a pastor at

Anacostia River Church in Washington, D.C. He has also served, he's also served as a pastor

in North Carolina in D.C. and also the Cayman Islands. He's the author of several books,

mini books. If you go on Amazon and type in his name, tons of books will come up, the life of God

in the soul, the church, the gospel for Muslims, what is a healthy church member, the decline of

African-American theology and faithful preacher among others. He blogs regularly at the front porch

and pure church. Yeah, Thabidi, we've never actually spoken in person before. We've

corresponded on social media and I reached out to him recently and just said, man, I would love,

love to have you on the podcast. He's got such an interesting story. He might be more associated,

for some of you, you might know him as kind of a member and maybe a leader in the gospel coalition.

He's been a part of together for the gospel, but has more recently, and we get into this in the

conversation, kind of focused more on his own local church context, which is in an urban area in

D.C. This dude is loaded with wisdom. I mean, this guy's been around. He's a sharp thinker. He's

got loads of experience. He's got a gentle, kind heart. And he's got a lot of stuff to say about

the race conversation in American evangelicals. That's what we focus on. We do talk about critical

race theory, which I know is super debated in the church today. I think most people who talk about it

don't know, don't understand it quite honestly. And we talk about that some extent. We talk about

race relations in the church. We talk about racism. We talk about all kinds of things that a lot of

people have been talking about. And a lot more people need to talk about in the American evangelical

church. So I'm so excited for this conversation. He's going to say stuff you're not going to agree

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