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BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

841: BiggerNews: Soft Landing or Hard Recession? How to Build Wealth in Both

BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

BiggerPockets

Education, Business, Investing

4.8 • 16.5K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2023

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Will 2024 bring about a soft landing or a hard recession? Tough economic times could be upon us as more and more economists disagree with the “soft landing” narrative of early and mid-2023. Even though the economy hasn’t broken down yet, top-tier investors like Fundrise’s Ben Miller believe that a recessionary “lag” is taking place that could give us some severe financial whiplash—and only the best of the best will survive what is to come. So, what does it take to survive a recession, and how do you know whether or not you’ve put yourself at risk of losing everything? Ben, David, and Rob all give their takes on what could happen in 2024, how they’re protecting their wealth, and why they’re taking fewer risks to ensure they make it out alive. This may be a HUGE wake-up call if you’re still actively buying real estate deals and leveraging your portfolio as much as possible. Ben will also talk about his lessons from the last two crashes, how the companies he worked with got crushed, and how he changed his investing perspective to build wealth far faster than almost anyone around him. Wealth is built during the downtimes, but if you don’t follow the advice of those who have been through past crashes, you could lose everything you’ve built! In This Episode We Cover: When the 2024 recession could hit and why it may be worse than most Americans believe The recession “lag” that is catching up to us and why it might hit you by surprise A soft landing vs. hard recession and how bad the economy could get Impacts on real estate and whether or not you should be buying or holding right now Playing financial “defense” and how to ensure you don’t get wiped out during downtimes High mortgage rates and how they could lead to unemployment, a housing market standstill, and a tough economy And So Much More! Links from the Show Find an Agent Find a Lender BiggerPockets Youtube Channel BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Pro Membership BiggerPockets Bookstore BiggerPockets Bootcamps BiggerPockets Podcast BiggerPockets Merch Listen to All Your Favorite BiggerPockets Podcasts in One Place Learn About Real Estate, The Housing Market, and Money Management with The BiggerPockets Podcasts Get More Deals Done with The BiggerPockets Investing Tools Find a BiggerPockets Real Estate Meetup in Your Area Davids's BiggerPockets Profile David's Instagram Subscribe to David’s YouTube Channel Rob's BiggerPockets Profile Rob's Instagram Rob's TikTok Rob's Twitter Rob's YouTube Fundrise’s Ben Miller on The 2023 Financial Crash A “Soft Landing” Looks Shaky as Recession Risk Starts to Rise Why 2023’s “Rolling Recession” is Almost Impossible to Predict Connect with Ben: Fundrise Ben's X/Twitter Click here to listen to the full episode: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/real-estate-841 Interested in learning more about today’s sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email [email protected]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is the BiggerPockets Podcast Show 841.

0:04.0

What's going on everyone? It's David Green, your host of the Bigger

0:07.6

Pocket's Real Estate Podcast, the biggest, the best, the badest real estate

0:10.6

podcast on the planet every week bringing you the stories how to

0:14.3

and the answers that you need to make smart real estate decisions now in the

0:18.4

current market. I'm joined today by my co-host Rob Abbasolo with an incredibly insightful show.

0:25.2

On the topic of bringing you up-to-date information, we have Ben Miller of Fundrise,

0:30.1

who is talking about our current economy, what's going on with it, and how we can

0:34.8

positions ourselves to survive or maybe even thrive in the face of some pretty

0:39.2

serious changes. Rob, what are some of your thoughts after today's show?

0:42.5

What should people keep an eye out to listen for?

0:44.3

I think that we're going to get some mindset changes from the people that have been very

0:48.7

aggressively acquiring, you know, that set of investors make change how they think it approached real estate

0:56.0

over the next couple of years but very good insightful philosophical talk from

1:00.4

Ben I mean he really brought it man this guy is I mean a recession genius if you will which is a very weird accolade to have but he knows his stuff.

1:08.8

Yeah although this is a bigger new show it's more like bigger conversations and Ben brings a lot of

1:13.7

insight as someone who has studied actual recessions you don't find a lot of

1:17.9

people who have dedicated so much of their life to studying something so

1:21.7

depressing but I'm sure glad we got

1:24.1

them so before we bring Ben in to talk about what's going on in the economy and

1:27.8

specifically the world of real estate today's quick tip is very simple.

1:32.6

Take some time to redefine what success looks like.

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