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Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

83: How kids learn Q’anjob’al and other Mayan languages - Interview with Pedro Mateo Pedro

Lingthusiasm - A podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Gretchen McCulloch and Lauren Gawne

Science

4.8743 Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Young kids growing up in Guatemala often learn Q’anjob’al, Kaq’chikel, or another Mayan language from their families and communities. But they don’t live next to the kinds of major research universities that do most of the academic studies about how kids learn languages. Figuring out what these kids are doing is part of a bigger push to learn more about language learning in a broader variety of sociocultural settings. In this episode, your host Gretchen McCulloch gets enthusiastic about how kids learn Q’anjob’al and other Mayan languages with Dr. Pedro Mateo Pedro, who’s an assistant professor at the University of Toronto, Canada, a native speaker of Q'anjob'al and a learner of Kaq'chikel. We talk about Pedro’s background teaching school in Q’anjob’al and Spanish, which sounds kids acquire later in Q’anjob’al (hint: it’s the ejectives like q’ and b’), and gender differences in how kids speak Q’anjob’al. We also talk more broadly about why this work is important, both in terms of understanding how language acquisition works as a whole and in terms of using the knowledge of how children acquire Indigenous languages to create teaching materials specific to those languages. Finally, we talk about Pedro’s newer revitalization work with a community of Itza’ speakers and the process of building a relationship with a community that you’re not already part of. Read the transcript here: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/725990865999462400/transcript-episode-83-how-kids-learn-qanjobal Announcements: We love reading up on an interesting etymology, but the history of a word doesn’t have to define how it’s used now - and to celebrate that we have new merch with the motto ‘Etymology isn’t Destiny’. Our artist, Lucy Maddox has brought these words to life in a beautiful design in black, white, and rainbow gradient. The etymology isn't destiny design is available on lots of different colours and styles of shirts, hoodies, tank tops, t-shirts: classic fit, relaxed fit, curved fit. Plus mugs, notebooks, stickers, water bottles, zippered pouches, and more. Get yours here! https://www.redbubble.com/people/lingthusiasm/shop?artistUserName=Lingthusiasm&collections=3651094&iaCode=all-departments&sortOrder=relevant We also have tons of other Lingthusiastic merch available, it makes a great gift to give to a linguistics enthusiast in your life or to request as a gift from someone. Special shoutout to our aesthetic IPA chart redesign, which now comes in rectangle (looks great as a poster if you have an office or corridor that needs to be jazzed up), and with a transparent background for t-shirt purposes! Or get it on a tote bag or notebook so you can bring it to conferences! https://www.redbubble.com/people/lingthusiasm/shop?artistUserName=lingthusiasm&collections=3154890&iaCode=all-departments&sortOrder=relevant In this month’s behind the scenes bonus episode, Gretchen gets enthusiastic about the linguistic process of transcribing podcast episodes with Sarah Dopierala, whose name you may recognize from the credits at the end of the show! We talk about how Sarah's background in linguistics helps her with the technical words and phonetic transcriptions in Lingthusiasm episodes, her own research into converbs, and the linguistic tendencies that she's noticed from years of transcribing Lauren and Gretchen (guess which of us uses more quotative speech!) Join us on Patreon now to get access to this and 70+ other bonus episodes, including our upcoming linguistics advice episode where we answer your questions! You’ll also get access to the Lingthusiasm Discord server where you can chat with other language nerds. www.patreon.com/lingthusiasm For links to things mentioned in this episode: https://lingthusiasm.com/post/725956192085671936/lingthusiasm-83-how-kids-learn-qanjobal-and

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0:00.0

Welcome to Lingthusiasm, a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics. I'm Gretchen

0:23.1

McCulloch. I'm here with Dr. Pedro Mateo Pedro, who's an assistant professor at the University of

0:27.7

Toronto, Canada, a native speaker of Kanhabal, and a learner of Kakchikil. And today, we're getting

0:32.9

enthusiastic about kids acquiring indigenous languages. But first, some announcements. We love looking up whether

0:39.2

two words that look kind of similar are actually historically related, but the history of a word

0:44.1

doesn't have to define how it's used today. And to celebrate how we can grow up to be more than we

0:49.1

ever expected, we have new merch that says, Atomology isn't destiny.

0:54.9

Our artist, Lucy Maddox, has made Atomology as in destiny

0:58.0

into a swoopy cursive design with a fun little destiny star on the dot of the eye,

1:03.5

available in black, white, and my personal favorite rainbow gradient.

1:07.4

This design is available on lots of different colors and styles of shirts. We've got hoodies,

1:12.6

tank tops, t-shirts in classic fit, relaxed fit, curved fit, plus mugs, notebooks, stickers,

1:19.3

water bottles, zipper pouches. You know, if it's on Red Bubble, we might have put

1:24.0

etymology as Destiny on it. We also have tons of other Ling-thusiasm

1:28.1

merch available in our merch store at Lingenthusiasm.com flash merch. I have to say, it makes a

1:33.4

great gift to give to a linguistics enthusiast in your life or to request as a gift if you are

1:38.4

that linguistics enthusiast. We also want to give a special shout-out to our aesthetic redesign

1:42.8

of the International Phonetic Alphabet.

1:45.0

So last year, we reorganized the classic IPA chart to have colors and have little cute circles

1:50.6

and not just be boring gray lines and boxes, and to even more elegantly represent the principle

1:56.0

that the location of the symbols in rows and columns represents the place and degree of constriction in the

2:01.3

mouth. I think it looks really cool. It's also a fun little puzzle to sit there and figure out

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