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The James Altucher Show

818 - Amy Zegart: Spies and Lies

The James Altucher Show

James Altucher

Education, Business

4.62.7K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

We all have seen a dozen of Spies movies, movies about intelligence, we read books about it, we knew who is James Bond, Mission Impossible and all. But the question is still out there, what are spies? What are the intelligence agencies? What are the covert intelligence agencies?In this episode, I am joined by Amy Zegart, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, a professor of political science, past co-director of Stanford's Center for International Security and Cooperation, to talk about her new book, Spies, Lies, and Algorithms: The History and Future of American Intelligence.That book is like the textbook for spies and intelligence 101! Conversation with Amy was so fascinating as we touched upon the topics like, why do we need spies and intelligence, cyber security, cyber-warfare, which apparently we are at war all year round, and we even talked about how a commercial company like Google, Facebook, and others might have more data on us than the government agencies!Listen to the episode, and tweet at me @jaltucher if you like this episodes!My new book Skip The Line is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever you get your new book!Join You Should Run For President 2.0 Facebook Group, and we discuss why should run for president.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltucher.com/podcast.Thanks so much for listening! If you like this episode, please subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" and rate and review wherever you get your podcasts:Apple PodcastsStitcheriHeart RadioSpotify Follow me on Social Media:YouTubeTwitterFacebook ------------What do YOU think of the show? Head to JamesAltucherShow.com/listeners and fill out a short survey that will help us better tailor the podcast to our audience!Are you interested in getting direct answers from James about your question on a podcast? Go to JamesAltucherShow.com/AskAltucher and send in your questions to be answered on the air!------------Visit Notepd.com to read our idea lists & sign up to create your own!My new book, Skip the Line, is out! Make sure you get a copy wherever books are sold!Join the You Should Run for President 2.0 Facebook Group, where we discuss why you should run for President.I write about all my podcasts! Check out the full post and learn what I learned at jamesaltuchershow.com------------Thank you so much for listening! If you like this episode, please rate, review, and subscribe to "The James Altucher Show" wherever you get your podcasts: Apple PodcastsiHeart RadioSpotifyFollow me on social media:YouTubeTwitterFacebookLinkedIn See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This isn't your average business podcast and he's not your average host.

0:06.8

This is the James Altiger Show.

0:12.8

Today on the James Altiger Show.

0:15.3

Boy, I didn't know there were 19 different intelligence agencies in the US.

0:20.9

Of course there's the CIA, there's the FBI, there's the DIA, which is the Defense Intelligence

0:25.8

Agency, but there's also stuff like the Geospatial Intelligence Agency, which takes data from

0:31.7

space.

0:32.7

And then I didn't know how much intelligence is really done by private companies now.

0:37.4

And this is a whole new industry.

0:39.3

It kind of makes you want to be an entrepreneur in this industry.

0:42.0

But Amy Zegert, who is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institute of Stanford, she wrote

0:48.6

the book on the state of the universe in intelligence right now.

0:55.4

It's called Spies, Lies and Algorithms, the history and future of American intelligence.

1:01.3

And it's the book to read and listen about if you want to learn more about this.

1:05.8

So I'm glad she's joining me through the podcast.

1:09.5

I've always been curious.

1:17.0

Why is there a CIA, an FBI, an NSA, a DIA, the Coast Guard, and all these other weird intelligence

1:27.6

agencies.

1:28.6

There's now an intelligence agency, the Geospatial Intelligence Agency, which we'll find out

1:33.7

about in a second.

1:35.2

But I have with me Amy Zegert, who is a, would you say you're a fellow at the Hoover Institute?

1:41.1

Yeah, I'm a senior fellow.

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