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8: US-Ukraine Summit Yields No Tomahawk Commitment; Focus on Attrition. John Hardie and Bill Roggio discuss how reports suggest President Trump pressed Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire based on Russian territorial demands, though no commitment was made on pr

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John Batchelor

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🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 4 minutes

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US-Ukraine Summit Yields No Tomahawk Commitment; Focus on Attrition. John Hardie and Bill Roggio discuss how reports suggest President Trump pressed Zelensky to agree to a ceasefire based on Russian territorial demands, though no commitment was made on providing Tomahawk missiles. Tomahawks would provide Ukraine with a highly useful long-range strike capability but would not be a "wonder weapon." With Russia holding a material advantage, Ukraine's best strategy is exhausting Russia's offensive potential by inflicting disproportionate attrition, independent of Trump's softening support.
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I'm jammedatsu with my colleagues, John Hardy and Bill Rajah of the Foundation for

0:27.7

Defense of Democracy. The news, John, to comment, Ukrainian President Zelensky will attend a meeting

0:34.4

of Ukraine's allies known as the Coalition of the Willing.

0:37.8

That's a quote in London Friday announced by Mr. McCrone.

0:42.3

This could be an extension of the meeting in the White House or could be going in another direction.

0:46.7

Do you have any information about what the Coalition of the Willing can do for in that they haven't already done, John?

0:53.6

So the Coalition of the Willing is a group of countries led by the UK and France that have been

0:59.6

trying to devise a post-war security guarantee for Ukraine, with, according to Trump, likely

1:09.6

some level of U.S. support, although it's still unclear exactly

1:12.7

what that would look like. I think the pattern generally with these meetings with Trump and

1:18.0

Zelensky and Putin is, you know, you see the kind of principles on the U.S., Ukrainian,

1:23.7

Russian side meet, and then the Europeans kind of figure out how to, you know, move Trump

1:28.9

in the right direction or kind of reverse damage or just, you know, coordinate based on what just

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