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8: US Pressure on Venezuela/Colombia Narco-States Splits Latin American Left. Ernesto Araújo and Alejandro Peña Esclusa discuss how the US military is ramping up pressure on narco-terrorism gangs operating out of Venezuela and Colombia, causing nervousness i

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John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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US Pressure on Venezuela/Colombia Narco-States Splits Latin American Left. Ernesto Araújo and Alejandro Peña Esclusa discuss how the US military is ramping up pressure on narco-terrorism gangs operating out of Venezuela and Colombia, causing nervousness in the Maduro regime. Trump openly attacked Maduro's key ally, Colombian President Petro, calling him an accomplice and threatening to cut aid and raise tariffs. The Venezuelan opposition is heartened, believing Maduro's fall will expose deep drug-related corruption linking members of the São Paulo Forum across the continent.

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0:27.6

Alejandro Pini Esclusa. He's in Europe. Remember the opposition,

0:31.6

the writer, Venezuelan writer and thinker, watching the affairs that we can see in

0:37.4

Caracas. That begins the story. Ernesto Arrugio,

0:41.2

former former minister of Republic of Brazil, he's in Africa watching the events that we can see

0:46.4

in Caracas. Ernesto and Alejandro, I'm going to reduce all of this complication to just this

0:52.8

question. You first, Alejandro.

0:55.3

Maduro leaves.

0:56.9

Does he take Petro with him?

0:59.1

Does he take all the drug lords with him?

1:01.1

Is that the end of the narco-terrorism with Maduro out of the way?

1:05.3

Or am I being too utopian?

1:07.2

Is he a minor part of the whole problem?

1:12.6

Your opinion, Alejandro? The fall of Maduro will affect transversely the whole continent, because I'm certain

1:19.6

and there is a lot of information that they're all related, all members of the

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