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8: China Dominates Ukraine's Drone Supply Chain Despite Export Controls. Jack Burnham discusses how Ukraine's survival relies on its ability to produce up to 200,000 FPV drones monthly. However, 97% of Ukrainian drone producers source primary components, inc

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

Society & Culture, Arts, News, Books

4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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China Dominates Ukraine's Drone Supply Chain Despite Export Controls. Jack Burnham discusses how Ukraine's survival relies on its ability to produce up to 200,000 FPV drones monthly. However, 97% of Ukrainian drone producers source primary components, including rare earths for engines and chips, from China. Despite China imposing export controls on finished drones, smaller components are circumvented and supplied to both Ukraine and Russia. Finding alternative, self-reliant supply chains, potentially through US allies like Taiwan, is crucial for Kyiv.

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This is CBS Eye on the World. Here's John Batchelor.

0:36.9

I welcome Jack Burnham, research fellow for the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, who guides me to a website, the Snake Island Institute.

0:42.2

This is Ukraine.

0:44.3

Snake Island is a geography offshore of Ukraine that was early in the war,

0:51.7

a focus point of much patriotism.

0:57.6

But right now, the Snake Island Institute that we can presume is in Kiev,

1:01.1

is putting out a document that requires explanation.

1:02.2

That's why Jack's here.

1:04.1

I read from the document.

1:08.7

Ukraine's first Deputy Minister of Defense, Ivan, have Riluk,

1:15.2

cited that Ukraine produced up to 200,000 FPVs monthly and must continuously replenish its fleet, making supply chain resilience a matter of survival.

1:22.3

Jack, a very good evening to you.

1:23.7

What is an FPV, 200,000 a month, how does Ukraine use them, and where does the fleet come from?

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