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8/8: Rise and Fall and Legend of George S. Patton for Memorial Day. 8/8: The Commanders: The Leadership Journeys of George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Erwin Rommel by Lloyd Clark

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🗓️ 29 May 2023

⏱️ 7 minutes

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8/8: Rise and Fall and Legend of George S. Patton for Memorial Day. 8/8: The Commanders: The Leadership Journeys of George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Erwin Rommel by Lloyd Clark

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Born in the two decades prior to World War I, George Patton, Bernard Montgomery, and Erwin Rommel became among the most recognized and successful military leaders of the 20th century. However, as acclaimed military historian Lloyd Clark reveals in his penetrating and insightful braided chronicle of their lives, they charted very different, often interrupted, paths to their ultimate leadership positions commanding hundreds of thousands of troops during World War II and celebrated as heroes in the United States, Britain, and Germany.

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This is CBS I Am the World, professor Lloyd Clark.

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He's director of research at the Center for Army Leadership at the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst.

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That is why the major theme here is leadership, not who wins the battles,

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but how the men responded to the leader, how the junior leaders learn from the senior leaders.

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We'll begin with Erwin Rommel, only because he's executed as a trader by Adolf Hitler.

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And what I learned about Erwin Rommel is that his wife Lucy never, never relented on the idea that he was persecuted

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because he was successful and that he was not involved in the plot against Hitler.

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But then again, Lucy was looking at it from the point of view of a survivor of the Second War in Germany,

1:25.0

which was a deprived land for many years afterwards.

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Not until the Marshall Plan showed up in the late 40s, did Germany stop starving?

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So I don't ask Lucy Rommel to have an opinion that stands up in the 21st century.

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Professor, the fact that there was a plot against Hitler recommends all of these officers.

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Is there a moment you can see in what we have the letters to Lucy or his memoirs

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where Rommel realized that he was working for the devil?

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I think that what we see increasingly is Rommel recognizing that Hitler was a very flawed man,

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