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All right, everybody, it's Matt Taibi from racket.news. And, of course, wrote a bunch of great books, including Hate, Inc. And a great anti-Russia Gator in a week or month of Russiagate News here. Exciting stuff. Welcome back to the show. How you doing, Matt? Good, Scott doing Matt good Scott how are you doing really good man great to have you here I've

been way behind on this I've been putting it off and then I put it off too long I only

got about two-thirds of the way through the house investigation of the ICA this

morning and I haven't even gotten to the declassified annex to the

Durham report which is my favorite government report of all yeah so you're going to help me and because

I'm going to help you you're the expert on this stuff but go ahead yeah you're going to catch me up

here first of all can we start with the ICA?

Everybody, if you don't know, get the book and read up and catch up. But in right before

Trump, what, one week before Trump was inaugurated in January of 2017, they put out this

sort of pseudo-national intelligence estimate saying that the Russians had

rigged the election for Trump and it was Clapper and Brennan and all them who did it. And of course,

we know they excluded the DIA and the Bureau of Intelligence and Research over at State who obviously

would have known better and handpicked, I think wasrennan's own words for the people who wrote the report so

we already knew you know how rig the whole thing was but now we found out much more about the background

to uh essentially the excuses they hid behind to come up with this assessment so can you fill us in on

that part first here the excuses they came up with to assessment. So can you fill us in on that part first here? The excuses they came

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