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I'm John Batsow, a Charles Spicer. His book is Coffee with Hitler, the untold story of

the amateur spies who tried to civilize the Nazis.

Lloyd George met Hitler in September of 36. It is now the summer of 37 into the fall

of 37. There is no longer an illusion in London that the Nazi regime is rising to power,

both to remilitarize and to brutalize its citizens everywhere, but especially Jewish citizens.

At the same time, the Anglo, the D.E.G. and Berlin and the Anglo-German fellowship in London

are being penetrated by spies. I hardly have time to go very far in these avenues that Charles

introduces us to. But the NKVD is present. MI5 is always watching the fellowship.

Also, I must note at this point that one of the hires of a German- a young man from Cambridge

who was a fluent German speaker who has been identified in Cambridge as very laughed, his

name Philby, Kim Philby. Charles, when I read this part of your book, I said, this is too

much. I've had to learn the Cambridge five entirely from the Soviet point of view.

Now I have to learn it from the German point of view. Why was Kim Philby at the Anglo-German

fellowship? He was hired by them. He was paid by them.

He was asked by invited to come in to set up the publicity department to do a bit of

what we would now call PR. Just like now, when companies run by older businessmen need

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