Hello, world, welcome to discover your talent, do what you love.

I'm your host, Don Hutchison.

Every Monday and Wednesday, I interview someone around the world who's discovered their talents to do work they love to create a life of success, satisfaction, and freedom.

On Fridays, I interview a well-known expert from the fields of personal or business development who share experiences, tools, and insights to help our listeners along their journeys.

I'm delighted to bring you our featured experts, Andy Kramer and Al Harris.

Welcome, folks. Glad to be here. We're very pleased to be with you. Thank you. A few words

about Andy and Al. Andrea S. Kramer, Andy, and Alton B. Harris, Al, are distinguished attorneys

married to each other and nationally recognized for their work in helping women advance in their

careers. They're the authors of breaking through bias, communication techniques for women to

succeed at work, and it's not you, it's the workplace, women's conflict

at work, and the bias that built it. They speak frequently about promoting gender diversity,

inclusion, and overcoming stereotypes and biases. They've appeared in the New York Times,

Harvard Business Review, the Wall Street Journal, Forbes, the Huffington Post, the Chicago Tribune,

Fast Company Cranes, and many other publications.

Well, that's a pithy summary of your very interesting careers.

It's great to have you on the show, and today's topic is one that's very timely and vital.

What can women do in a gender-biased workplace?

So before we launch into the topic, take just a couple of minutes each of you and tell us about your careers that got you to this place in life.

Well, when I got out of law school and started practicing law, I was at a tiny little law firm where they couldn't

have cared if you were purple polka on it. But when I joined a big firm where people don't know you

and they rely on the stereotypes that they have about people and the biases that flow from them,

I found that women were at a significant disadvantage.

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