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The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

#794: LiveRamp CMO Jessica Shapiro on building brand trust while automating at scale

The Agile Brand with Greg Kihlström®: Expert Mode Marketing Technology, AI, & CX

The Agile Brand

Marketing, Business

4.9113 Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

With AI poised to generate nearly infinite content, personalization, and experiences, is the single most important thing marketers should be focused on actually something that can’t be automated at all? Agility requires not just adopting new technologies, but knowing when and how to double down on timeless human principles. It’s about integrating the power of AI without losing the soul of the brand. Today, we're going to talk about the unexpected paradox of the AI revolution. As artificial intelligence becomes more capable of creating, personalizing, and automating customer interactions at scale, the most critical differentiator for a business isn't a better algorithm, but a stronger, more trusted brand. We’ll explore why brand is becoming the essential human edge in an increasingly automated world, and how leaders can harness AI not to replace their brand, but to amplify it. To help me discuss this topic, I'd like to welcome, Jessica Shapiro, Chief Marketing Officer at LiveRamp. About Jessica Shapiro Jessica Shapiro is Chief Marketing Officer at LiveRamp (NYSE: RAMP), where she leads global marketing strategy and execution. With deep experience guiding companies through critical growth inflection points, she is known for building brands, shaping categories, and aligning marketing with business strategy.Over the past two decades, Jessica has held senior marketing leadership roles at Microsoft, Starbucks, and SAP—helping established brands navigate change, scale new offerings, and grow in competitive markets. Her expertise spans brand development, go-to-market strategy, communications, and demand generation. Jessica holds a BA from Brown University and an MBA from the University of Washington.,Yes,This will be completed shortly Jessica Shapiro on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicamshapiro/ Resources LiveRamp: https://liveramp.com/ The Agile Brand podcast is brought to you by TEKsystems. Learn more here: https://www.teksystems.com/versionnextnow Catch the future of e-commerce at eTail Palm Springs, Feb 23-26 in Palm Springs, CA. Go here for more details: https://etailwest.wbresearch.com/Drive your customers to new horizons at the premier retail event of the year for Retail and Brand marketers. Learn more at CRMC 2026, June 1-3. https://www.thecrmc.com/ Enjoyed the show? Tell us more at and give us a rating so others can find the show at: https://ratethispodcast.com/agileConnect with Greg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gregkihlstromDon't miss a thing: get the latest episodes, sign up for our newsletter and more: https://www.theagilebrand.showCheck out The Agile Brand Guide website with articles, insights, and Martechipedia, the wiki for marketing technology: https://www.agilebrandguide.com The Agile Brand is produced by Missing Link—a Latina-owned strategy-driven, creatively fueled production co-op. From ideation to creation, they craft human connections through intelligent, engaging and informative content. https://www.missinglink.company

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0:00.0

The Agile Brand

0:02.0

Welcome to Season 8 of the Agile Brand podcast.

0:09.0

This season we're going all in on expert mode MARTEC, AI, and customer experience, talking with the people and platforms behind the brands you know and love.

0:19.0

I'm Greg Kilstrom, your host, and I help Fortune 1000 companies make sense of

0:24.4

MARTEC, AI, and MarketingOps.

0:27.3

Hit subscribe or follow to make sure you always get the latest episodes and leave us a rating

0:31.4

so others can find us as well.

0:34.1

And make sure you check out our sponsor, Tech Systems, an industry leader in full-stack technology

0:38.7

services, talent services, and real-world application.

0:42.7

For more information, go to teK systems.com.

0:46.8

Now let's dive in.

0:50.7

With AI poised to generate nearly infinite content, personalization, and experiences, is the

0:55.9

single most important thing marketers should be focused on actually something that can't be

0:59.9

automated at all? Agility requires not just adopting new technologies, but knowing when and how to

1:06.6

double down on timeless human principles. It's about integrating the power of AI without losing

1:11.9

the soul of the brand. Today we're going to talk about the paradox of the AI revolution.

1:17.3

As artificial intelligence becomes more capable of creating, personalizing, and automating

1:22.2

customer interactions at scale, the most critical differentiator for a business isn't a better

1:26.9

algorithm, but a stronger,

1:28.8

more trusted brand.

1:30.2

We're going to explore why brand is becoming the essential human edge in an increasingly automated

1:35.1

world and how leaders can harness AI not to replace their brand, but to amplify it.

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