76: Iran's Nuclear Stalemate, Economic Crisis, and Missile Program Aspirations. Jonathan Schanzer discusses how Iran views the lack of peace or war with Israel as a dangerous stalemate, while aspiring to fire 2,000 ballistic missiles at once in a future confl
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🗓️ 11 November 2025
⏱️ 10 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBSI and the world. I'm John Batchel. Bill Rajo, Foundation for Defense of Democracy, senior fellow is my colleague and co-host, and we're very, very pleased and privileged to welcome our eyes on Iran, Jonathan Saya of FDD, watching the statements out of Tehran, but also this headline from the New York Times. |
| 0:23.6 | This is an article by Stephen Erlanger, who has written about Iran for many years, a distinguished |
| 0:28.8 | foreign policy reporter for the Times. I've talked to him many times over the years. |
| 0:34.7 | The dangerous stalemate over Iran's nuclear program, subhead, with no negotiations, |
| 0:42.0 | no oversight, no clarity about Iran's stock of nuclear material, many in the region fear |
| 0:48.1 | another war with Israel is inevitable. Jonathan, a very good evening to you. This is discouraging, but at the same time, it looks based on evidence. |
| 0:58.3 | You hear the same thing that the war is inevitable, that none of the issues that started |
| 1:03.6 | the first round have been resolved. |
| 1:05.6 | Good evening to you. |
| 1:07.6 | Good evening to you. |
| 1:09.6 | How you describe the situation is really how the Iranians and |
| 1:13.6 | Israelis see it. On one hand, Iranians think they were able to an extent absorb a war, |
| 1:19.6 | but they think they were a bit humiliated. So they would like another round where they can |
| 1:24.6 | actually establish deterrence against Israel, unlike they did last |
| 1:28.1 | time, Israelis on the other hand are of the opinion that Iran's nuclear program is still not |
| 1:33.8 | fully destroyed in a sense that the uranium stockpile is there. But the Supreme Leader |
| 1:39.0 | pointed at this a few months back when he said, we are in a position of no peace and no war. And that is what he |
| 1:45.4 | described as dangerous for inside the country. It would contribute to the lack of morale internally |
| 1:49.9 | when people don't know if another war is inevitable, but they know for a fact there's no peace |
| 1:54.2 | either. So this stalemate, as you described it very accurately, is having a more psychological |
| 1:59.9 | effect on the average Iranian and regime |
| 2:02.5 | supporters. Bill, you have a question for Jonathan. Hello, John. According to the New York |
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