749: Losing the Lamanites - Hyrum Joe (Navajo) Pt. 2
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
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🗓️ 1 June 2017
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Continuing our series entitled “Losing the Lamanites,” we interview Mormons from Central and South America, Native Americans, and Pacific Islanders — with the intent of exploring their faith transitions, and focusing (where relevant) particularly on their thoughts and feelings around having been handed the now questionable “Lamanite” identity.
In this episode we interview Hyrum Joe, and cover the following:
*His 3rd-generation upbringing in the LDS Church
*The culture shock he experienced when he moved off the Reservation while in grade school
*His feelings of being an outsider both in and out of the Church while growing up in his new community
*His inactivity in his younger years and how he subsequently went back into activity after meeting his ex-wife and becoming sealed in the temple
*How he realized he never truly had a "testimony" of the truth claims of the LDS Church, even while being active and being heavily involved in ward missionary activities
*His impending faith transition
*His thoughts and feelings of the "Lamanite" identity
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| 0:50.8 | Okay, so you guys moved to Arizona, is that right? |
| 0:56.4 | Yeah, yeah, we moved in 2011, live for Christmas. You know, I contacted the |
| 1:02.6 | Bishop, I found the, that's how bad I was. You know, I was excited to be in a new |
| 1:07.0 | ward. Contacted the Bishop, let him know, you know, what house we chose and |
| 1:13.3 | and our address and all that. And I just asked for a little bit to help. Maybe |
| 1:19.0 | the other storm to come over and give us a hand with unloading. They never |
| 1:24.2 | sent anybody. We just, I think we had one family and I think my father helped |
| 1:29.6 | out. Another native Mormon family helped us out. They do a ball that we're down |
| 1:34.2 | here. So we moved in with church and at no surprise, John, the race |
| 1:43.7 | decides again. So now it's even worse because we're the only Native Americans |
| 1:50.9 | again. I think there was a half Native American guy that was married to a white lady. |
| 1:56.0 | And one of the black guy in the ward, I don't even think there was any Hispanics in |
| 2:02.2 | our ward back then. Now there is. And so we, there's only room with the back of the |
| 2:09.8 | the, the back of the chapel, or sacrament meeting. It ends, you know, and we stand up |
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