748: Losing the Lamanites - Hyrum Joe (Navajo) Pt. 1
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.5 • 5.7K Ratings
🗓️ 1 June 2017
⏱️ 78 minutes
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Summary
Continuing our series entitled “Losing the Lamanites,” we interview Mormons from Central and South America, Native Americans, and Pacific Islanders — with the intent of exploring their faith transitions, and focusing (where relevant) particularly on their thoughts and feelings around having been handed the now questionable “Lamanite” identity.
In this episode we interview Hyrum Joe, and cover the following:
*His 3rd-generation upbringing in the LDS Church
*The culture shock he experienced when he moved off the Reservation while in grade school
*His feelings of being an outsider both in and out of the Church while growing up in his new community
*His inactivity in his younger years and how he subsequently went back into activity after meeting his ex-wife and becoming sealed in the temple
*How he realized he never truly had a "testimony" of the truth claims of the LDS Church, even while being active and being heavily involved in ward missionary activities
*His impending faith transition
*His thoughts and feelings of the "Lamanite" identity
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| 0:50.9 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast live. I'm |
| 0:55.3 | your host John DeLin. It is May 10th, 2017 and we're really excited for today's |
| 1:02.4 | interview. We are continuing our series. The series we're calling, losing the |
| 1:09.6 | laymenites and basically what I'm really interested in in hearing is hearing |
| 1:16.9 | from various people who were told as they were growing up within the Mormon |
| 1:22.9 | church that they were laymenites, meaning that they were descendants of Lehigh or |
| 1:28.4 | laymen or Lemuel and that's their identity. That's their heritage. There's all |
| 1:35.9 | sorts of implications there because the Book of Mormon claims to be a historical |
| 1:39.6 | book because the Book of Mormon claims to be a history of the primary |
| 1:45.1 | inhabitants of North Central and South America and we know the general authorities |
| 1:49.9 | for decades, maybe even more, have been telling Pacific Islanders that they |
| 1:57.0 | are also descendants from the Book of Mormon and of course the problem is not only |
| 2:05.2 | there are no evidence that the Book of Mormon is historical but there's negative |
| 2:08.5 | evidence. Pretty much any angle you look at the Book of Mormon, whether it's |
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