#74: Roman Honor With Carlin Barton

The Art of Manliness

Society & Culture, Education, Philosophy

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🗓️ 27 June 2014

⏱️ 90 minutes

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I talk to professor of classical history Carlin Barton about her book Roman Honor: The Fire in the Bones. Honor has played a huge role manliness across time and cultures. Professor Barton and I discuss what honor meant to the Romans, how it governed their lives, and what it meant to Roman masculinity. Professor Barton explains the how the Romans distinguished males from men and how a male gained status as a "man" and the role male extendibility had in that process. Later on in our conversation, we talk about the decline of honor in Ancient Rome and the rise of philosophies like Stoicism during the civil wars and the rise of the Roman Empire. It's a fascinating discussion.

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0:00.0	Bratmicae here and welcome to another edition of the Art of Manliness Podcast.
0:20.4	So a few years ago on the website, we did an in-depth series about the history of traditional
0:25.4	male honor.
0:27.6	The honor is a big part of the male identity throughout cultures throughout time and it's
0:33.1	just a fascinating subject because the way we think of it, think of honor today in the
0:37.3	21st century is completely different from what the way men thought of honor 100 years
0:43.0	ago and 1000 years ago and 2000 years ago going on and on.
0:47.3	After we finished this series, I discovered this book called Roman Honor, The Fire in the
0:52.0	Bones.
0:53.0	It was written by a classics professor at the University of Massachusetts.
0:56.0	Her name is Carl and Barton and it literally is one of the best books I read in 2013.
1:01.5	It's all about how the ancient Romans perceived honor and how honor just dictated how they
1:09.1	interacted with one another and how they thought of themselves completely, completely fascinating
1:13.2	books.
1:14.2	So after I read it, I had to get her on the podcast and that's what we're doing today.
1:17.5	We're going to talk to Carl and Barton and we're going to talk about ancient Roman honor.
1:22.0	We're going to discuss what the Romans thought of honor, what it meant to them.
1:25.6	We'll also talk about how honor changed throughout Roman history.
1:29.9	Particularly during the Civil Wars and the rise of the Roman Empire, there was a decline
1:35.0	in honor and sort of the traditional sense of honor and this rise of more cosmopolitan
1:40.5	philosophies like cynicism and stoicism and epicurianism and we're going to talk about
1:45.8	why that is.
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