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Hello again everybody. You can obviously tell we are still not in studio.

We are still traveling. We're in the midst of our north trip, which has been far more filled with drama and surprises than we expected.

Yeah, you think a summer trip would be just fine and weather-free.

Well, it was not so far. The first part was, but the second part hasn't been.

We will show you obviously lots of stuff about it. We're very excited to share.

But the big thing I want to say is it is summertime, which means construction season.

You know what I mean? Get stuff done in the mountains is during the summer months when all of the tourists are here.

So there's that, which resulted in dirt roads, muddy dirt roads in sports cars.

Yeah, you know how I've pined for a Safari Eyes 928?

I really wanted one now, like underbody skid plates and these suspension and lights and the whole works.

I wished we had that today. Safari Eyes Z-Car. We were not looking.

We found some dirt roads. Like the entire highway was dirt and gravel.

But yeah, there's no pavement anywhere. And it's a major thoroughfare. It's this or nothing.

Yeah, that was the funny thing about it is you would think, well guys, don't be stupid.

Don't take your cars down dirt roads. No, no, this is a highway.

It's a major highway, like four lane highway. And they didn't even do the half-

No, you know, brand new black top and half dirt. It was all dirt.

Yeah, it was, it was the world's largest, widest, muddiest, soupiest dirt road that we had picked.

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