Shame corrodes the very part of us that believes we were capable of change.

My name is Andrea and this is Italchild.

Welcome back to Italchild where we take a deep dive into the impact of growing up in

a dysfunctional family.

Hey, hoe shit shows.

How's it going?

Today we are diving deep with a fellow shit show and one of my favorite podcast hosts,

Aaron Martin.

So she is the host of the podcast Pink Shade.

It's a reality TV recap podcast and y'all know I'm a reality TV junkie.

So I had heard her talk about that she had been raised in a cult and she had also made

a few comments in some episodes about Alan on or could tell that she had some familiarity

with kind of the recovery world.

So I reached out to her and asked her if she'd be on and she agreed and then it was like

right after that she just went dark and she wasn't hosting the podcast.

She was taking a break from the podcast and her co-host was just doing it and based

off what her co-host was saying, I can't remember exactly what it was but you know mental

health issues.

I just knew in my gut I was like she had some repressed trauma come to the surface.

I just knew it and yeah that's exactly what happened.

So I'm glad we waited a year because we have a lot more content to work with.

But before that I've been thinking about whether or not I want to bring this up, I prayed

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