Hey y'all it's Mary Payne from Pink Shade and if you're hearing this that means I'm on vacation

Oh so exciting so for this week when I'm on vacation I'm presenting a series to you called

then and now then and now so the then part I am presenting a series to you called Then and Now.

Then and Now, so the then part is my pain in the pod days

where I had a podcast about podcasters.

And it was amazing.

I loved it so much, thinking about bringing a little pain in the pod back in the new year,

not as it was, but maybe just on the pink shade Prime, Patreon and Supercast.

Anyway, that's a side note, that's a programming note for 2024.

So when you're hearing these episodes,

you're gonna hear me talk to Ryan Bailey, Kate Casey,

and Matt and Jake from Reality Gays.

And what we're going to do is break down

the original episode that I had with them

from 2018, 2019, 2020, and then we will talk about what's going on now, what has changed,

what say the same.

So what you're going to hear is my current interview with either Kate, Ryan, or Matt and Jake, and then you afterwards

stay tuned and you'll hear the original episode.

So I hope you enjoyed this series.

I'm thinking about kind of stringing this along now that I see some of the old interviews I have and how great they were.

I'm like, hey, why not catch up with some of these people? So I hope you enjoy it and I'll see you in the new year. Hey y'all, it's Mary Payne here a pink shade. I don't know if you guys know but I had a

podcast a few years ago it was called Pain and the Pod. Obviously it's a play on my name being Mary Payne. I started that

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