Hey, it's Francis, you know, the other day I was making pancakes from my kid and she

started complaining that there weren't chocolate chips in them and so I'm like, yeah,

but can't you taste the love in them? And she goes, no. Anyway, daddy, love is not a kind

of food. She really wanted chocolate chips. And I'm laughing about it now, but honestly,

it was one of those days where I really couldn't tell if eating your kids is the greatest

thing or the worst thing in the world. So that's pretty much what this episode from last

year was about. Check it out.

I'm Francis Lamb, and this is the splendid table from APM.

So I love him to death, but my dad never cooked for us when I was growing up. I mean, really,

almost literally never. I can remember exactly three times in my life that he made food for

us, and one of them turned out to be a dream I had. And, you know, I think it was mostly

just a cultural and generational thing, but, you know, now I look around at all my fellow

dad friends and so many of them cook for their families, at least part of the time. So

it seems pretty normalized to me, which is interesting. And I also realized that I mostly

hang around, you know, food people, which led me to another question. How do you learn

to cook for kids if you actually first learn to cook as professional, or even if you just

learn to cook, you know, by watching cool chefs on TV or whatever? Anyway, with all this

stuff swirling around in my head, I wanted to spend some time this week with some of the

best dad cooks I know. To talk about our experiences, to learn their best tricks to get dinner

done every night, and, you know, feel a little bit like it's okay that I feel so hard

some of the time.

Later in the show, we'll talk about David Chang, the founder of Momofuku, and one of the

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