This conversation was recorded late last year, but due to some productions now foos and

regular life getting in the way, it's only coming out now.

I swear it is still fresh and relevant.

I am sorry for our absence.

Okay, today is Wednesday, December 21st at about 1 o'clock.

So what are we going to talk about today?

The most famous barbecue joint in constitutional law was once located in Birmingham, Alabama.

This was Ollie's barbecue.

Ollie's was a family owned restaurant and in the words of the Supreme Court, one specializing

in barbecue meets and homemade pies.

Now Ollie's served white customers and black customers, but like a lot of restaurants

in the South before the 1960s, Ollie's would not serve its black customers inside of

the restaurant.

Instead, black customers could only order from the takeout counter.

And as Ollie McCleung Jr., the owner of the barbecue, said in 2001, it was known as

a white restaurant.

But when President Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that kind of

racially discriminatory treatment became illegal, period.

But Ollie McCleung thought complying with the law would drive away his white customers,

so he sued.

In 1964, the Supreme Court ruled against Ollie's.

Ollie's barbecue, like every other restaurant, hotel, and other place open to the public,

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