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Coaching for Leaders

717: A Key Tactic for Way Better Conversations, with Alison Wood Brooks

Coaching for Leaders

Dave Stachowiak

Education, Business, Management, Self-improvement, Careers

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Alison Wood Brooks: Talk
Alison Wood Brooks is the O’Brien Associate Professor of Business Administration and Hellman Faculty Fellow at the Harvard Business School, where she created and teaches a course called TALK. As a behavioral scientist, she is a leading expert on the science of conversation and her research was referenced in two of the top ten most-viewed TED talks and depicted in Pixar’s Inside Out 2. She is the author of Talk: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves*.

Conversations are the venues where leaders do so much of their work. We all know someone who always can keep a conversation interesting and relevant. In this episode, Alison and I discuss how a key tactic can help you towards more meaningful conversations.
Key Points

Healthy relationships are critical for success, and relationships are about talking.
Good conversation is both instinct and deliberate effort. Preparing topics in advance improves conversation immensely.
Topics for conversation can be sourced from almost anywhere and help even if we don’t use those topics.
Good topic management is more important than the right topic. The best conversationalists know when to shift.
Small talk in an essential exploration ground for getting to bigger, more meaningful conversation.

Resources Mentioned

Talk: The Science of Conversation and the Art of Being Ourselves* by Alison Wood Brooks

Interview Notes
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Related Episodes

The Way Into Difficult Conversations, with Kwame Christian (episode 497)
How to Help Difficult Conversations Go Better, with Sheila Heen (episode 655)
How to Connect with People Better, with Charles Duhigg (episode 670)

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0:00.0

Conversations are the venues where leaders do so much of their work.

0:04.6

We all know someone who can always keep a conversation interesting and relevant.

0:10.5

In this episode, how a key tactic can help you towards more meaningful conversations.

0:17.2

This is Coaching for Leaders, Episode 717.

0:21.8

Produced by Innovate Learning, maximizing human potential.

0:30.0

Greetings to you from Orange County, California.

0:33.4

This is Coaching for Leaders, and I'm your host, Dave Stahofiak.

0:38.1

Leaders aren't born.

0:39.9

They're made.

0:40.8

And this weekly show helps you discover leadership wisdom through insightful conversations.

0:46.5

Oh, Conversations, it is such a key word.

0:50.2

It's such a key principle for us.

0:51.8

And it's such a key activity, not only for it's such a key activity not only for leaders, but also

0:56.3

for us as human beings. And so much of our success in our relationships is about conversations.

1:02.9

And yet, it is something that I think almost universally we're challenged by, how do we have

1:08.4

the best conversations? and how can our conversations

1:12.1

help us to make the world a better place? And I am so glad today to welcome a guest who's

1:17.1

going to help us to get better at having more effective conversations and connecting well with

1:22.1

people to build our relationships. I'm so pleased to introduce to you, Alison Woodbrooks.

1:26.3

She is the O'Brien Associate Professor

1:28.4

of Business Administration and Hellman Faculty Fellow at the Harvard Business School, where she

1:33.1

created and teaches a course called Talk. As a behavioral scientist, she is a leading expert on

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