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Jason Waller here true underdog podcast and today we've got a guest to talk about something not so exciting something more serious something that's detrimental in our world today things that are something that's going on to the people out there across the entire universe and it's being neglected.

We need to share more stories about it how people have overcome it and how to look for it and help empower and serve people out there so who I've got with me today is Elizabeth Frazier she's an activist she's an entrepreneur she's a motivational speaker but be bigger than that is she was a victim of sex trafficking for over 20 years is that correct Elizabeth yeah that's correct and she's got a story that we're going to dive into today so is the listeners out there can understand what to look for how to help people out

how to be better for people how to pay attention to what's going on and how to really come out and serve and try to make a difference and stop some of this going on so Elizabeth let's talk about your early age when did everything start with you know give the introduction of yourself a little bit better than I did and then when did everything start sure well thank you for having me on Jason I appreciate people that are willing to go to the dark places because change can't happen until people will step into it and my hope with this podcast is to bring

people into the darkness but not leave them there and then bring them out into the light so that they feel like there is hope and there are things that can change so nobody has to worry about getting stuck in this so please just keep listening and get through it so my name is Elizabeth Frazier I live in California I've got five kids and I've lived here about 12 years and I love it I love the weather I don't love the traffic and it looks like I have just a really charmed life now and it looked like that when I was a child as well but when I was a child actually was so

old by my parents beginning at four years old and it didn't stop until you know my mid my mid 20s I I distinctively remember four but I'm sure it happened before that or I was at least groomed before that because I I knew what to do at four and I wouldn't have known what to do if I hadn't been been taught what to do because no four year old wakes up knowing how to perform sex acts and just does them so that's kind of how my story started was was a young young

child and you have eight siblings correct was that going on with your siblings as well you know I I have to be very careful when talking

about my siblings because I don't want to share their stories but I will say that we're very split down

the middle and I only have one sister she's 10 or 12 years older than I am and the rest of

brothers so I have seven brothers and we all have our own story and what we went through growing up so

we're very split on on who went through what and things like that but we all have our own story that makes sense so

you know have you found it yourself to forgive anybody for this you know actually I have and people are

surprised by that but it felt more of a selfish thing to let go of it because it wasn't serving me to hold

on to it and it was more damaging to me to hold on to this anger and hate that I had to learn how to

let go of it and so I did I confronted my parents with my husband about eight years ago and I was able to

look them in the eye and tell them that I forgave them and forgiveness is an interesting thing because

I think people think about it in many different ways and for me I didn't want them in my life

I wasn't okay with them knowing my children but I needed to forgive them so I could let go of the

pain and the anger of it and I was finally at a place that I could genuinely forgive them I had

tried before but I wasn't ready until that moment and and I have I've been able to let go of the

anger towards them for it so were you with the same family while this was going on for over 20 years

yeah who's my birth family I ended up actually not a lot of people know this but I was adopted as an

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