I'm John John Bax to with Jerry Dunleavy and James Hassan. The new book is Cabell.

The airfield is surrounded by people who are desperate to leave Afghanistan.

At the same time, the airfield is surrounded by the Taliban,

who are partners, so-called, by the State Department and the White House back in

Washington. The Taliban has a very strong relationship with Al Qaeda. It has an unclear relationship with ISIS, ISIS

K called in the region. Why this matters now is because it's unsolved. We're going to go to Abbegate and what happens the afternoon of

August 26th, but it's important to prepare the ground here.

And Jerry, I come to you.

You are a principal and you are an investigator of this matter and it's ongoing.

We need to understand what we know so far about the Taliban, their relationship to ISIS

K, and especially the Haakani network, which my understanding is, is a stand-in for the Al-Qaeda group now today, but also there's

evidence that they worked with when it suited them. ISIS-K Who were the Hakanis and where were the

Hakanis during this evacuation, especially on the 26th of August? Where were

they, Jerry?

So, great question.

So I am an investigator on the House Foreign Affairs Committee looking into the Afghanistan

withdrawal.

I'll just note that I'm just here as the author, the co-author of this book but the relationship that the Connie network had with all these

groups is very important so the Hakanis are a key force inside the Taliban.

They also have a long standing relationship

with the Pakistani intelligence services to ISI.

On top of that, the Hicani's have a very long relationship

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